Posted on 11/08/2012 12:48:05 PM PST by NYer
How far to the left would the Republican party have to move for you not to vote for the GOP nominee?
Where would you personally draw the line where you would no longer support a candidate (or a party)if it meant violating your own morals, values and principles?
Everyone’s line and tolerance is different and these voters
decided the GOP had crossed their threshold.
How much of today’s GOP platform is reminiscent of yesteryear’s Democratic platform?
“the GOP would wither.”
How dare you. I don’t plan to wither. Go on and start your own party. It’s a good idea. I’m staying with the GOP. Mitt was as near perfect an American citizen, family man, business man, patriot as you can get. He had a great plan. Oh, when you start that new party, Get instructions from the Libertarians....or maybe call Ross Perot. Once the Liberals and media finish explaining to the general public what kooks you are, we’ll see.
The idea of not voting because some establishment republican type hurt my widdle feelings and didn't make the right noises insults me as an American. I do kinda love my country and I am insulted by the commie in the White House like every second of every freaking day.
I am simply speechless.
The additional Obama USSC appointees will make you look like a fool and we will all suffer for those appointees far into the future.
How silly of you. John Roberts was chosen by a Republican...he voted for social medicare. George H. Bush picked some doosies...Reagan picked O’Connor and others who were liberal. If you thought Romney was going to pick conservatives, you are not thinking right.
That is Rush's argument. Unfortunately, the Republican Party no longer identifies with conservatives. In terms of the actual turnout, according to the CS Monitor:
But independents, like whites, were a slightly smaller share of the electorate in 2012. And a declaration of independence is not necessarily indicative of a voter’s ideology. Obama won self-declared moderates, 56 to 41 percent. Obama also took 86 percent of the liberal vote, while Romney won 82 percent of conservatives.
I held my nose and voted for Romney, but I understand why many did not.
Focusing on fiscal conservatism only, is a losing campaign and will not motivate value voters.
Not one ad on dems booing God at their convention?
Not one ad about Obama not wanting to protect babies that survive abortion attempts?
Not one ad about Obama and democrats supporting homosexual marriage? (Nearly 50% of even liberal California and Maryland oppose it)
Talk all you want about tax rates, exports, capital gainszzzzzzzz it will not motivate.
I shouted out, Who killed America?
When after all it was you and me!
The Rolling Stones.
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Here's my take, which I've explained before of how Republican voters stayed home.
Mirror on the wall. The stigma of racism. People who voted for Juan McCain in 2008, yet at the same time not against the first Negro presidential candidate, since the mulatto and Juan were roughly equal at the time, could not bring themselves this year to vote against an American-African, by voting for the challenger of the first... etc, because of the stigma of racism, that we all everywhere in this country, including here on this forum, just love to pin on anyone who won't toe the line on the multiculti utopia. I see examples of this everywhere, as guilt ridden whites applaud lousy black actors, comedians, musicians, when posters precede Thomas Sowell's name with a "Dr", but not Charles Krauthammer's. There's been probably a dozen accusations of "racism" made somewhere against someone on this forum today. And finally six words: Whoopie Goldberg.
It didn't help that the entire conservative and Republican establishment piled on Newt for even running these ads to begin with. Everyone preferred to keep their heads in the sand as to how vulnerable Romney was with blue-collar swing voters. They preferred to pretend that every past, present and future Republican voter is a devoted student of Milton Friedman and Ayn Rand. There was no need for us to nominate a guy who had an extremely messy business career with tons of baggage and had already been killed by similar ads in his 1994 Senate race.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2957011/posts
Where things drop off are in the rural portions of Ohio, especially in the southeast. These represent areas still hard-hit by the recession. Unemployment is high there, and the area has seen almost no growth in recent years.
My sense is these voters were unhappy with Obama. But his negative ad campaign relentlessly emphasizing Romney’s wealth and tenure at Bain Capital may have turned them off to the Republican nominee as well. The Romney campaign exacerbated this through the challenger’s failure to articulate a clear, positive agenda to address these voters’ fears, and self-inflicted wounds like the “47 percent” gaffe. Given a choice between two unpalatable options, these voters simply stayed home.
“Just taking a stab in the dark here..hows about the GOP running a conservative?
Got any suggestions?”
Oh sure. Marco Rubio who thinks Republicans should address illegal immigration?
Exactly right. Romney was selected by the voters in the Primary and it was our responsibility to vote to get him elected. There is no excuse except to call those that did not support him a communists Democrat. I got sick and tired of those stupid jackasses that said they would just stay home rather than vote for Romney. I cannot express my anger. STUPID FOOLS. YOU DESTROYED AMERICA.
Because a lot of what Paul advocates is kind of messy.
Had Romney alone came out against the NDAA and the “Police State/War on Drugs he would have gotten million more votes at a minimum.
I can’t tell you how big the NDAA and police state stuff is to a lot fo people.
There are probably 3 million reasons why Republicans stayed home.
“How silly of you. John Roberts was chosen by a Republican...he voted for social medicare. George H. Bush picked some doosies...Reagan picked O’Connor and others who were liberal. If you thought Romney was going to pick conservatives, you are not thinking right.”
I don’t think Romney would have selected Ginsburg, Breyer, the Wise Latina or Butch Kagan.
He may have picked a Souter or Roberts, someone who we thought to be conservative but flipped, or he may have picked a Thomas, Scalia or Alito.
With Obama, we know we will get Marxist ideologues. With Romney... we may have gotten lucky. Now, we will never know.
Obama's extremist environmental nazis have declared war on coal which translates higher energy costs for all of us. Romney repeatedly declared his loyalty to the coal industry. If for no other reason alone, that would be enough for me to support Romney.
Obama is a Communist/Muslim--it can't get any worse than this.
Voters didn’t necessarily stay home - they just skipped the presidential line and voted the rest of the ballot.
With a choice between Romney or another 4 years of Obama, it should have been a no freaking brainer. If ones “own morals, values and principles” allows for the destruction of this country, then I figure those “own morals, values and principles” aren’t worth as much as a ball of spit.
I would have voted for a can of soup over Obama.
I saw someone on another thread post up “www. vote for jesus .com.” There were 2.3 million people that signed up on that site swearing that they would not vote for a “Satanic Mormon!” Not in line with my faith buddy! Fools! I don’t believe in Mormonism. It is a cult because they don’t believe that Jesus is Lord, but It didn’t sway my vote for a business man over a puppet! I don’t want a theocracy - I want a free country!!
I mean suggestions for acceptable and viable conservative candidates.
RINO File.
It could have been a "Romney wins popular vote, Obama wins electoral vote" situation.
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