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So, for 2016--is it Rubio, Cruz, or Martinez?
Self-vanity

Posted on 11/07/2012 8:00:21 AM PST by mtrott

OK, is there now any doubt that the next republican presidential candidate MUST be a hispanic? IMO, there is zero chance of a republican garnering more than 5% of the black vote, and, apparently, we now have so many single women who are government-dependent that a republican cannot overcome the gender gap to any significant degree.

Since the nation seems to have been irretrievably divided up into disparate voting blocks and interest groups, it seem to me there is no other choice for the republicans than to spend the next 4 years in an all out campaign to win over the hispanic vote.

The question is, who, among prominent hispanic potential GOP candidates is the strongest alternative, and why? Rubio, Susana Martinez, and Ted Cruz immediately come to mind, but perhaps there are more. I would even go so far as to support a double hispanic ticket with a female included, such as Rubio/Martinez, Cruz/Martinez, etc. The republicans absolutely have to win in 2016, or I fear it is over for them.


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To: mtrott

I could give two $hits who the GOP picks for 2016. This was my last election. I’m done with them all.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 8:15:49 AM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: mtrott

It will be Hillary in 2016. Let’s not kid ourselves. Rubio is too smart to put himself on the line like that.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 8:16:08 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: mtrott

The problem is that if history is any guide, they’ll all run and Jebbie or Fatso will win the nomination with about 1/3 of the votes.


23 posted on 11/07/2012 8:16:16 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: mtrott

It doesn’t matter. Republicans can’t win. We can not attract the hispanic or black vote because they just want freebies. America is not interested in what republicans are selling. Simple as that.


24 posted on 11/07/2012 8:16:24 AM PST by texaschick
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To: goldstategop

A winning ticket would be Rubio/Jindal.

It won’t happen.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 8:16:27 AM PST by TitansAFC (Marco Rubio/Bobby Jindal 2016! Sarah Palin is still my first choice...........)
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To: mtrott
OK, is there now any doubt that the next republican presidential candidate MUST be a hispanic?

If you really believe this, you're in the wrong party.
26 posted on 11/07/2012 8:16:55 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: mtrott

Martinez, she has the Executive experience. With Rubio as VP.


27 posted on 11/07/2012 8:17:15 AM PST by RoadieFan
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To: mtrott

Maybe we can get one of them to announce that they’re gay and another to start gender reassignment, then we’ll have a chance.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 8:17:19 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: mtrott

In 2008 130 million people voted. In 2012 only 118 million voted. About 12 million stayed home. Who were they? Ron Paul supporters, Evangelical Christians and Reagan Democrats. Ron Paul supporters were dissed at the convention and Christians were told to keep a low profile. Obama turned off the Reagan Democrats who could not vote GOP thus stayed home. If the GOP can reach out to these three groups, maybe the election result in 2012 would be different.


29 posted on 11/07/2012 8:17:26 AM PST by Fee
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To: goldstategop

Isn’t it Mike Pence that got busted paying off the Husband of his mistress last year?? Or was it someone else?


30 posted on 11/07/2012 8:18:20 AM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: WillVoteForFood
I would also tell you I do not believe Ted Cruz is a national candidate. Will be a good senator, but not a national candidate.

As someone who supported Cruz early on and who is delighted that he won, I have to agree with you. He has a future as a great senator but he just doesn't project as presidential (too much Wally Cox, not enough Charlton Heston, for those old enough to get the reference).

31 posted on 11/07/2012 8:18:24 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: goldstategop

If the GOP liberal establishment keeps pimping on us Democrat-lite liberal candidates, it will lose. On domestic and foreign policy, Romney was to the left of Obama. Incredible but true. The voters weren’t fooled and will pick the Classic Coke over the New Coke any day.>>>>>>

Got news for you, the GOP has been pimping Dem. lite for a long time, and will continue to do so. The GOP is as much to blame for the destruction as the Dems....already Boner is rolling over and making nice. I’m done holding my nose, and I’m done with the GOP.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 8:18:24 AM PST by gunner03
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To: mtrott

Boehner..........2013


33 posted on 11/07/2012 8:19:40 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: mtrott

IMHO, time for Ret. Lt. Col. Allen West to run ! Far different than Ret. Gen. Colon Powell. IMHO, I always thought of Colon as being very weak.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 8:21:46 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: milemark

I don’t advocate running a hispanic in order to pander to them. It’s to get them to actually listen to and consider a republican candidate.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 8:22:49 AM PST by mtrott
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To: mtrott

absolutely NONE OF THE ABOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


36 posted on 11/07/2012 8:23:02 AM PST by dalereed
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To: mtrott

Too soon for me to think about it. Still treating my headache from last night.


37 posted on 11/07/2012 8:23:14 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: mtrott

Rubio and/or Martinez will be on the next GOP ticket. There is probably no way around it.

We are obviously increasingly unable to win national elections because of how badly we lose with women and minorities. Therefore, I’d imagine both slots on our next ticket will be a minority and/or woman. It’s sad that identity politics is so important, but it is and we are going to have to run with that.


38 posted on 11/07/2012 8:23:54 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Paine in the Neck

Cruz was also born in Canada and is therefore not eligible for a run at the Presidency. Not that that is always a problem... /sarc


39 posted on 11/07/2012 8:26:25 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: mtrott

They were discussing this on the radio today. Conservatism is perceived as a value of white, Christian, male, rural/small town types. Yesterday, Latinos overwhelming supported a candidate who is diametrically opposed to conservative values. Are we to believe that Latinos are going to have an ideological transformation because conservatives run a Latino? I wouldn’t have a problem supporting a Latino or any other minority — for the right reasons. But I remember hearing talk about Rubio and Jindal in the past and behind the talk was the idea that we have a “colored guy” too. I want the best man/woman for the job. I don’t care about race.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 8:27:26 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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