Posted on 11/07/2012 5:30:33 AM PST by Andrei Bulba
Eventually the boring little things everyone takes for granted, become the great big things that bite you hard. For many decades the majority of our fellow citizens were far more liberal and democratic than the electorate which actually voted.
We constantly say, oh that's a poll of "registered voters" it doesn't count. Or even worse, we say are you kidding? It's a poll of ADULTS not even people registered to vote. Then we discuss how those people are too lazy to vote and they don't count.
Well reality is a tough thing. They did count because they could vote. America has long been a country where if everyone voted we'd have a liberal disaster on our hands. As democrats engineered the demographics of NY, Cal., and many other big states we said, boy it's a good thing the whole country isn't like those places, we'd be cooked.
Well last night the chickens came home to roost. They came home to vote. We're talking about the America that lives in New York City and New Jersey, watched their fellow citizens murdered on the real September 11 - and if they had been the likely voters, there never would have been a War On Terror, or lots of other policies the rest of us took for granted.
Republicans ignore those non voters because they won't vote for Republicans anyway. Republicans use those folks to scare the rest of us so we'll elect Republicans in more conservative areas. Democrats usually ignore them because they always vote democrat no matter what.
Barack Obama offered the perfect storm, a black liberal democrat who could turn registered voters into actual voters. And the disaster came. The turnout models in the polls were correct because he turned them out. Blacks, 18 year old kids, hispanics, single mothers, people from school districts so bad they aren't really schools, they are just places for the formerly non voting class to hang out or sell drugs.
These voters don't give a damn how many ships the navy has, or whether Egypt goes radical, heck many are muslims. They WANT Obamacare and things like the deficit are meaningless to them. Harsh words here on a conservative site, but in their world it's just fine.
Granted most polls show a slight majority don't want Obamacare, etc. But guess what? This time WE became the "registered voters". The actual voters were the 99% black population who turned out for Obama, the unwed mothers who want a handout, and so on. All the Americans who were there but didn't count because they didn't bother, well now they bothered.
What do you do when most of your fellow citizens want an America you believe is a horrible misguided mistake? Well it's not easy. All the talk about how blacks, hispanics, etc, have more in common with us doesn't cut it. How many conservative republicans are prepared to actually get those votes rather than pay lip service? Can you even get those without becoming liberal?
This is the hard part. Can we really reverse the demographics on immigration? Seems damn unlikely. Do we just sit it out till Obama isn't on the ballot? You think democrats can't figure this out and keep doing it?
It's not easy but we took these registered voters for granted- just like the democrats did-forever. A healthy solution for America has to include them. Either they become more conservative or we can hang it up. And that has to mean more than conservatives just saying that those people don't realize our policies are better for them.
America can't afford to keep losing California, New York, Illinois, Michigan, the black vote, the Hispanic vote, the young vote, the female vote- because they have become The Vote. And they just reelected a truly lousy president because to them he's just fine. They are now the likely voters.
People are not too lazy to vote, WHEN THEIR FOOD STAMPS ARE ON THE LINE.
Barack Obama got 3 million fewer votes yesterday than George W. Bush got in 2004 -- and there are a lot more voters out there today than there were in 2004. Heck, Obama's 2012 vote total was almost identical to John Kerry's losing vote total in 2004.
Obama won because a lot of conservatives simply stayed home, and because he was able to get enough votes from politically-disinterested, gainfully employed voters in places like Florida and Virginia to supplement his natural base of misfits and losers.
It's really that simple, folks.
Hmm, the fact that Obama got 3mil less votes than GW Bush in ‘04 is a good counterpoint to the demographics hypothesis I’d settled on.
When the dust settles and people start looking at this objectively, I believe they’re going to look at some of these minor facts and determine that Romney lost this election simply because he couldn’t speak Spanish on the campaign trail the way Bush did.
Disagree with this article. Right centered people did not turn-out. Romney will have less votes that McCain did in 2008- and BTW, Obama’s vote count may end up being lower that McCain’s 2008 vote.
Do you have any numbers to support that conjecture?
I've said in the past that we needed to attempt to convert these people but many consider them irrelevant. But that was then.
Now, I think that events will have to manage our future rather than the other way around.
The laws of economics will not be ignored. We are spending ourselves into bankruptcy via the European model and taxing the "rich" will only work for a short time.
There are other forces at work in this world that see a wealthy country in decline and they are already carving out their portions.
I had thought that we could bounce back with such a clear choice in this election.
No, it is not a matter of conservatives staying home. In the case of VA, it has to do with a rapidly changing electorate fueled by immigration and a migration of liberals into NoVA to be around the honeypot called the federal government.
Here in Fairfax County, VA the foreign born make up 30% of the residents. They vote Dem two to one. And their numbers are growing. VA will be a blue state in less than 10 years.
Non-Hispanic whites, many of them conservative, are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the electorate. Many are dying as the Greatest Generation ebbs away. Demography is destiny. The current demograhpic profile of CA today will be what the US looks like in 2050. It has electoral consequences.
The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.
Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by an additional 130 million to 440 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration.
Obama has already created a backdoor amnesty that will result in 1.8 million illegal aliens having their status legalized and issued work permits. In his second term he will push for a blanket amnesty that will legalize 12 million more and allow them to sponsor tens of millions more of their relatives.
We don't have the same electorate anymore. Obama has proven you don't need to rely on non-Hispanic whites to win. We had a tipping point yesterday that will make the Dems the permanent majority party. Hillary will be elected in 2016, a beneficiary of the changed electorate.
I was expecting the Christians to come out strong to defend against ObamaCare. They didn't. In the next four years Obama will nominate more judges that will further limit freedom of religion.
eventually we will lose Texas, then it will be really over.
I was expecting the Christians to come out strong to defend against ObamaCare. They didn't. In the next four years Obama will nominate more judges that will further limit freedom of religion.
John McCain 59,948,323 45.65%
So far in 2012 Barack Obama 59,599,024 50.3%
Mitt Romney 56,974,934 48.1%
California is almost done reporting- all the more populated counties are in...
I think early voting sucks.
The Dems have all that time to bus in the Obama Phone users to get them to the polls. They hit up the homeless shelters, etc.
And Nate Silver got it right, too, something a lot of Freepers are going to have a hard time admitting.
I agree, and there are two things which helped make that happen.
(1) - Bernanke's relentless pump priming has significantly softened the effect of Obama's economy killing policies. The GOP has for all practical purposes been silent on this issue. Except for Ron Paul.
(2)Mitt Romney, his personal integrity notwithstanding, is a man of the paper-trading, deal-cutting economy rather than the build things, deliver goods economy. And working class voters who (rightly IMO) saw Wall Street as a major culprit in the last decade's fiscal follies were in no mood to let a Wall Streeter run the company. The Street is no friend, and no ally, to limited-government conservatives.
That is…bizarre.
wtf?
Yep. Axelrod figured out how to turn that spigot on, along with others over the years who pushed early voting, lack of ID etc etc. They got the unlikely voter to come out.
BUT there is a corollary to that, those voters still did not show up in the OFF year election of 2010.
Looks like the big move in 2010 was more about these unlikely voters not engaging unless it is a big time election.
So that leaves some questions.
1) Are we now in a trend where the Right will win 2014 big, because that new Dem base from the Demographic Wave won’t turn out, but they WILL turn out again in 2016..causing a kind of lurching electoral wobble walk.
2) Can the Dems find this combination again in 2016 with a new person? Will this new voter turn out for ANYONE on the Dem Presidential ticket now? Or only youth? Only racially?
Some combination?
3) What will the GOP fiddle around and do to counter? Move further left? Push Rubio and go hard for latinos? Both?
4) We may be seeing a flip of the old saw where the Democrats had a lot of the states, the House etc, and the GOP had the Presidency in a box for a time. While one shouldn’t be satisfied with that, a lot can be changed BOTTOM up. Of course, if the GOP drifts left that won’t matter...but the key for tea party types is to think smaller and do what the dems did. Go for the school boards, cities, etc and work UP. Those elections don’t have this kind of turnout.
Exhibit A: Mr. Buckeye McFrog
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