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To: Andrei Bulba
You have no idea what you're talking about.

Barack Obama got 3 million fewer votes yesterday than George W. Bush got in 2004 -- and there are a lot more voters out there today than there were in 2004. Heck, Obama's 2012 vote total was almost identical to John Kerry's losing vote total in 2004.

Obama won because a lot of conservatives simply stayed home, and because he was able to get enough votes from politically-disinterested, gainfully employed voters in places like Florida and Virginia to supplement his natural base of misfits and losers.

It's really that simple, folks.

3 posted on 11/07/2012 5:37:15 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Hmm, the fact that Obama got 3mil less votes than GW Bush in ‘04 is a good counterpoint to the demographics hypothesis I’d settled on.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 5:44:03 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: Alberta's Child
Obama won because a lot of conservatives simply stayed home, and because he was able to get enough votes from politically-disinterested, gainfully employed voters in places like Florida and Virginia to supplement his natural base of misfits and losers.

No, it is not a matter of conservatives staying home. In the case of VA, it has to do with a rapidly changing electorate fueled by immigration and a migration of liberals into NoVA to be around the honeypot called the federal government.

Here in Fairfax County, VA the foreign born make up 30% of the residents. They vote Dem two to one. And their numbers are growing. VA will be a blue state in less than 10 years.

Non-Hispanic whites, many of them conservative, are becoming a smaller and smaller percentage of the electorate. Many are dying as the Greatest Generation ebbs away. Demography is destiny. The current demograhpic profile of CA today will be what the US looks like in 2050. It has electoral consequences.

The U.S. adds one international migrant (net) every 36 seconds. Immigrants account for one in 8 U.S. residents, the highest level in more than 90 years. In 1970 it was one in 21; in 1980 it was one in 16; and in 1990 it was one in 13. In a decade, it will be one in 7, the highest it has been in our history. And by 2050, one in 5 residents of the U.S. will be foreign-born.

Currently, 1.6 million legal and illegal immigrants settle in the country each year; 350,000 immigrants leave each year, resulting in a net immigration of 1.25 million. Since 1970, the U.S. population has increased from 203 million to 310 million, i.e., over 100 million. In the next 40 years, the population will increase by an additional 130 million to 440 million. Three-quarters of the increase in our population since 1970 and the projected increase will be the result of immigration.

Obama has already created a backdoor amnesty that will result in 1.8 million illegal aliens having their status legalized and issued work permits. In his second term he will push for a blanket amnesty that will legalize 12 million more and allow them to sponsor tens of millions more of their relatives.

We don't have the same electorate anymore. Obama has proven you don't need to rely on non-Hispanic whites to win. We had a tipping point yesterday that will make the Dems the permanent majority party. Hillary will be elected in 2016, a beneficiary of the changed electorate.

9 posted on 11/07/2012 5:55:39 AM PST by kabar
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To: Alberta's Child
Obama won because a lot of conservatives simply stayed home,

I was expecting the Christians to come out strong to defend against ObamaCare. They didn't. In the next four years Obama will nominate more judges that will further limit freedom of religion.

10 posted on 11/07/2012 5:58:09 AM PST by oldbrowser
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To: Alberta's Child
Obama won because a lot of conservatives simply stayed home,

I was expecting the Christians to come out strong to defend against ObamaCare. They didn't. In the next four years Obama will nominate more judges that will further limit freedom of religion.

12 posted on 11/07/2012 6:05:03 AM PST by oldbrowser
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To: Alberta's Child
he was able to get enough votes from politically-disinterested, gainfully employed voters

I agree, and there are two things which helped make that happen.

(1) - Bernanke's relentless pump priming has significantly softened the effect of Obama's economy killing policies. The GOP has for all practical purposes been silent on this issue. Except for Ron Paul.

(2)Mitt Romney, his personal integrity notwithstanding, is a man of the paper-trading, deal-cutting economy rather than the build things, deliver goods economy. And working class voters who (rightly IMO) saw Wall Street as a major culprit in the last decade's fiscal follies were in no mood to let a Wall Streeter run the company. The Street is no friend, and no ally, to limited-government conservatives.

16 posted on 11/07/2012 6:27:25 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Alberta's Child

We both are right, but the electorate that voted was the Obama electorate. That means THEY were the likely voters.

And any “conservative” that stayed home on this one is at least as stupid as the Obama voters. So if we can’t call them likely voters against Obama they may as well vanish. In fact, they did.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 10:51:33 AM PST by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Ya gotta explain what was going on in NC...as per Breitbart..

Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/No-Car-Finds-2-214-Registered-Voters-110-Years-of-Age-Older

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.


45 posted on 11/08/2012 10:18:05 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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