Posted on 10/27/2012 3:39:14 PM PDT by nwrep
Click on the link below for the analysis.
There are some good points that this blog makes about why Ohio might be out of reach for Romney.
It boils down to the fact that all polls show the race as tied as best in Ohio - not a single poll has shown R&R leading there. The average lead for 0 based on OH state polls is around 2 points, enough to put him over the top in Ohio based on historical trends correlating polls to actual results.
I have read articles here from prognosticators, tea leaf readers and political analysts from NRO who passionately argue that:
a. We have closed the gap in early polling and will have an easier time overcoming the D+ advantage on election day
b. Due to a D advantage in early polling, likely voter screens are contaminated, and therefore we should ignore the polls.
While (a) sounds like a reasonable argument, (b) sounds like denial. State level polling (which I believe more than passionate entreaties by earnest Freepers) is still not showing R&R in a comfortable position there.
Without Ohio, it becomes a dice roll, other polls showing close races in WI, MI, PA, NV notwithstanding, since we cannot bank on those states.
The only thing going for R&R right now is comfortable leads in Gallup and Rasmussen national polls. The state by state picture is very different, and points to 0 leading in EVs. Talk of a R&R landslide is dangerous and counter-productive at this point.
Comments?
OH polls from Friday ranged from Romney +21 with indies to Obama +9. Rasmussen has it almost even I believe ? The question is whether indies are moving to Obama or not ? Are they making an effort to report as independents in the polls? If they are trending to O the only thing I can think of is the Mourdock and Akin comments being heavily exploited by the O campaign and having an effect. Hope I’m wrong.
Look around, at this point anything is possible. How many of these polls over sample the insane by 6 to 9 points.
Entirely consistent with the typical lack of integrity of the traitorous left.
Really? I went through the blog paragraph by paragraph and chart by chart and I could not find any.
What I found was some lefty whistling past the graveyard. Not at a single location did I see the blogger examining the poll internals. He just accepts the various poll results on their face despite the fact that we know that they have serious problems with their methodologies that cast doubts on the overall announced results in many cases.
This is especially true with the Ohio polls which ALL assume totally unrealistic turnout models.
While I agree with the poster's caution against overconfidence, the picture this blogger creates is nothing but wishful thinking on his part.
These links lead to more realistic analyses:
http://www.unskewedpolls.com/unskewed_projection_2012%20president_02.cfm
I think 538 is whistling past the graveyard. Click below for some analyses and facts that run directly contrary to Silver’s argument:
Somali power! LOL
Friggin Court Jesters....
I have it the other way for R&R
Adrian Gray:
Out to dinner last night with a couple who were told by a strong source, the Romney internals are terrific, including Ohio. Sure hope so.
This Rasmussen update is actually 3 days old: “The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Ohio Voters, taken the night after the final presidential debate, shows both President Obama and Mitt Romney attracting 48% of the vote. Two percent (2%) plan to vote for some other candidate, and three percent (3%) are undecided.”
And THEY recognize the undocumented impostor for
the lying Communist vermin that he is.
Where are you seeing a poll that shows Obama up by nine points among independents?
If Jug Ears wins Ohio, I will not be offended by any insults that others may direct at it.
Where are you seeing a poll that shows Obama up by nine points among independents?
I wouldn’t give drinking or strangling liberals such short shrift.
This guy thinks poorly of silver also.
Im pretty sure someone is either right or wrong about this
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