BOMBSHELL: US Troops Wouldn't Have Been Painting Targets on Ground Unless There Was Air Support..

Gateway Pundit ^ | October 26, 2012 | Jim Hoft

[2ndDivisionVet]

BOMBSHELL: US troops in Benghazi would not have been painting targets on the ground unless there was air support overhead. But someone called it off – And the decision most likely came from the White House.

FOX News reported earlier today that security officers on the ground in Benghazi had a laser planted on a target that was firing on the annex.

The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

So there were two drones in the air recording the attack on the ground. And now we know the CIA team at the annex was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. The White House was able to watch the attack live back in Washington DC. Yet, yesterday Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said this,

“The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over.”

How much more information did they need?

* * * * *

Then there’s this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:

Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.

If that SEAL was actively “painting” a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!

This is HUGE. It should be obvious by now that someone is not telling the truth. As Blackfive says,

“This is bigger than Watergate!… The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.“

A caller today discussed this with Rush Limbaugh.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

Here is part of that conversation.

CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, it’s like an IM. I mean, it’s immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So it’s immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then there’s a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, “This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this,” and that’s what would have happened.

So no one in the White House can deny that — well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, “Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril.” And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, “I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes.” And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didn’t need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?

I’m giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, that’s when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So there’s always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.

Read the rest here. Hat Tip Truth and Common Sense

[nanetteclaret]

I seem to remember that the Embassy in Cairo issued some sort of “apology” either that day or the next. 9/11 was on Tuesday and by the next Sunday Susan Rice was on all the talk shows. I will never forget the sequence of events, because mr. claret and I were out of town and listed to Fox News in the car on our way home that Sunday. It seems like the apology ad was aired in Pakistan that next week. I thought at the time how weird the “apology ad” was. Don’t forget, that ad caused a lot more people to die in riots.

There is a huge amount of blood on these people’s hands.

But as has been said before, “What was the secret that was more important than the Ambassador’s life?”

[RoosterRedux]

Here's a reference to 2 drones but it doesn't mention if the 2nd drone was armed (Source: Gretawire/Fox).

Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.

Further down in the article, there is also this...

The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights. The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours — enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

[Scotswife]

It was a “pre-emptive” apology. Before the violence happened.

I’m almost beginning to think this “apology” was a signal for some sort plan to be implemented.

The apology is linked to the video - so it is necessarily linked to the cover up following Benghazi.

It is almost like the cover up story began even prior to anything happening in Benghazi.

[servo1969]

Did this man get fired for telling Washington to go to hell when he was ordered to let the Ambassador and his defenders die?

http://www.africom.mil/GenCarterHam.asp



"General Carter F. Ham became commander of U.S. Africa Command headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany on March 9, 2011. U.S. Africa Command is one of six unified geographic commands within the Department of Defense unified command structure.

General Carter F. Ham served as an enlisted Infantryman in the 82nd Airborne Division before attending John Carroll University in Cleveland, Ohio. He was commissioned in the Infantry as a Distinguished Military Graduate in 1976.

His military service has included assignments in Kentucky, Ohio, California, Georgia, Italy and Germany to name a few. He has also served in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Macedonia, and Iraq.

He has held a variety of positions to include Recruiting Area Commander; Battalion Executive Officer at the National Training Center; Advisor to the Saudi Arabian National Guard Brigade; Commander, 1st Battalion, 6th Infantry; Chief of Staff, 1st Infantry Division; Commander, 29th Infantry Regiment; commander, Multi-National Brigade, Mosul, Iraq; Commander, 1st Infantry Division; Director for Operations, J-3, The Joint Staff, Washington, DC.

His previous assignment was Commanding General of U.S. Army Europe and 7th Army.

His military education includes the Armor Officers Advanced Course, Naval College of Command and Staff, graduating with distinction, and the U. S. Air Force’s Air War College.

General Ham's awards and decorations include Army Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal with three oak leaf clusters, the Legion of Merit with two oak leaf clusters, the Bronze Star Medal, and the Joint Service Commendation Medal."

[nanetteclaret]

This is why I’ve thought almost from the beginning that this whole incident was planned and scripted by HC and BO. The “videos,” “apology ads,” Susan Rice interviews, etc. were just way too “convenient.” It’s almost as if there was a timeline planned about when things would happen. The fact that the “filmmaker” is now in custody, explains a lot, too. That happened to convince all of us peons that they are actively working to “find the video maker and bring him to justice,” as HC told Ty Woods’ father. The reality is that with the “video maker” in custody, no one can ask him about it, so he can’t blab that it was done on the instructions of HC & BO.

[Scotswife]

That leaves me leaning towards 2 theories.

1. Benghazi was an intentional plot to kidnap the Ambassador and exchange him for the Blind Sheik.

or

2. Benghazi was an intentional plot to hide the fact a Fast and Furious operation was occurring in the Middle East.

In both scenarios the “terrorists” are in cahoots with Obama.
And this would explain the stand down order.

If his buddies get blown up, they will turn on him and start talking.

[nanetteclaret]

I don’t think it’s and/or. I think it’s both. However, even though both are bad, I just have the feeling there is a third scenario and it’s even worse than those two. But my tiny brain can’t even imagine what it could be. Arming terriorists in order to invade the US would be really stupid, but giving nuke secrets/materials to Iran might accomplish his goals.

[Scotswife]

And yet - he would need a group of people to facilitate this type of thing.
Who would these people be that would interface with the bad guys on his behalf?

Has anyone been keeping track of the recent whereabouts of Bill Ayers?

[holden]

because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over

This is one of those mindless, ad infinitum arguments of which Demonrats are so fond, while their cannon fodder rank and file "just miss" the logic because of their publik skool edumacation.

As with the bogeymen of taxing the rich, contributing to chirrun's education, and sex, I'm certain they would endorse, one can simply never reach any goal lines of "OK, that's enough for now!" when one demands others make room for carefulness and a need for information to one's own judgments. Yeah, "tax the rich!" We already do, at a far greater rate than some 47% tend to appreciate. But how few of them ever also consider that the status quo just might be OK?   Or does every meter exist for the sole purpose of being pegged?

Yeah, contribute to children's education! But we already contribute an average of what, $14,000/child to that? Lots more than almost every other country! And we get what? Fourteenth in the international rankings for that as such get laundered through the teachers' unions and the politicians' palms?

When mottoes like "You never leave a buddy behind!" aren't operative in your selfish, heroless world, it's forever OK just to demand--as Panetta's choice here proves, by his having chosen it---more information when in fact, you simply don't want to make a decision and would prefer just vote "present." After all, you don't want to be like Jimmy Cahtuh and prove to everyone that their Carter analogy to this administration was correct!

Oh, and for what too much sex can do to you, I refer you to the movie "Brainstorm".

HF

[butterdezillion]

Can he be arrested if he is charged with a crime? Is there anything in the Constitution or laws which excludes him from being subject to law enforcement? If he is unable to carry out his duties, for whatever reason (such as if he is in jail), the Vice-President assumes the duties immediately, correct?

[wintertime]

This is not the fault of our Military.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Stop it. You have, again, DELIBERATELY distorted my argument!

The brave, noble, and highly trained men and women serving our nation have been ABANDONED by our very highest military officers. These very highest officers, those with the **maximum** brass have turned their backs on their oath to defend the Constitution and on our noble military.

If you gave a twit about the brave soldiers who have come home maimed or dead due to insane rules of engagement and embassies left defenseless you too would be condemning those **very highest military** who have failed to honor their oath, and have allowed, and continue to allow, a usurper to sit in the White House.

[xone]

Can he be arrested if he is charged with a crime? Is there anything in the Constitution or laws which excludes him from being subject to law enforcement?

Before he is impeached and found guilty? Probably not. The VP carries on for the President if the President is unable to carry out his duties. The President is the chief law-enforcement officer of the land, but he has no Constitutional immunity from the other branches of the gov't. The Constitutional remedies are impeachment/conviction and elections.

[butterdezillion]

Impeachment is to kick him out of office, right? But if the President committed murder (for instance) it wouldn’t be Congress that would have him arrested, investigated, prosecuted, and tried, would it? It’s still law enforcement that tries crimes - even for POTUS, correct?

If Obama was known to have committed (let’s say) perjury, who would arrest him, according to the Constitution and laws?

[Crucial]

Back to the thread, I think that Stevens was allowed to die because the administration knew it was Assad’s forces attacking and they would clear out those weapons-laden warehouses in an efficient manner and thus leave little to no evidence.

[xone]

If he isn’t impeached and convicted, he can pardon himself. If he committed perjury, charges for high crimes and misdemeanors would get handled in the House. If he was ‘indicted’ by the House or impeached, he would be tried by the Senate. If found guilty he’d be removed from office.

No matter the ‘crime’ the solution remains political. House=>Senate=>removal

[American Constitutionalist]

EXTRA ! EXTRA ! READ ALL ABOUT IT !

OBAMA'S A COWARD !

HEADLINES : Obama refused to make the call for political re-election / Muslim Ideology reasons not to save Americans lives in Benghazi including the US Ambassador Chris Stevens.. and instead made the cowardly call to " STAND DOWN "

Joe Biden " Stand up Chuck " .... Obama to the Military " Stand down " ....

[uncommonsense]

"and to avoid the Iran-Contra-style embarrassment of having the US population find out that Obama was supplying alQaeda with weapons to help oust Qaddafi and keep the Arab Spring rolling."

... into Syria...

[TigersEye]

Only the POTUS had the authority to act!

[DoughtyOne]

Thanks TigersEye. Steely Tom, evidently the capability was there to lase, but the support was not on site. Rehearing the report, I would agree that my premise that something had to be overhead if they were lasing was not accurate. Sorry to mislead.

[DoughtyOne]

Yep