Posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:01 PM PDT by RushingWater
GLENDALE, Calif. (KABC) -- Proposition 37 is a measure to require mandatory labeling of genetically engineered food. There are two sides to this contentious issue.
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By your "logic," you'd have said the same when DuPont gave money to an NGO to ban freon.
The AMAZING work that crop geneticists and plant breeders have done; is very much responsible for the disaster dodging crops that are being harvested.
Call it GMO; call it whatever; but it is vital and amazing technology
What is your angle in this?
I am absolutely flummoxed by the wild illogical stuff that you’re posting. You aren’t yourself today.
The massive MSM assault on 37 should be enough to tell you that you’re supporting the wrong side here.
How can avoiding GMO products do any harm to anyone on Earth? We’ve done without them for 6000 years, and didn’t start losing bees until they came along.
>> “Call it GMO; call it whatever; but it is vital and amazing technology” <<
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If you want all real agriculture to become extinct anyway.
That was also probably said about hybrid seed corn in the 1930’s
Carry_Okie opposing politicized government control of the marketing and sale of goods is inconsistent? Carry_Okie instead advocating private risk management is inconsistent? ROTFLMAO. You've really blown it here allying yourself with Greenpeace.
The massive MSM assault on 37 should be enough to tell you that you’re supporting the wrong side here.
Baaaaaa. BAAAAA!!! BAAAAA!!!
You should be feeling sheepish. Don't you realize that Monsanto makes buckets of money in pesticides that some GMOs render needless? I'm not talking about Bt here either.
What have you got against Zaiger's peaches?
How can avoiding GMO products do any harm to anyone on Earth?
By forcing the poor to starve because of the cost of food production without them? We're only a year or two ahead of wheat rust you know. Without GMO technology, you'd be looking at a famine in fairly short order.
We’ve done without them for 6000 years, and didn’t start losing bees until they came along.
We haven't had six billion people on earth relying on such a small amount of arable land in 6000 years either. Are you doing anything about that? I am.
What do varroa mites carrying viruses have to do with GMOs? That peril to honeybees has less to do with GMOs and more to do with an the perils of relying exclusively upon an introduced species. What have you got against our 1,200 species of native bees? They are far more resistant to mites and just as good at pollination, if not better. Oh, but they do need native plants to stay alive. Are you working on that? I am.
So much for your "logic." You've decided that bundling all GMOs together is "logical" even if it is merely for the purpose of making a more reliable and cost effective equivalent of the usual hybrid. Don't blame the tool, blame the user.
The implication here is that we should just assume that food companies such as Monsanto really do have our best interests at heart. Are we to believe that adding a label that says "Contains Genetically Modified Ingredients" or "This product is genetically modified" would be prohibitively expensive?
Unfortunately, that means is so easily corrupted that you see dangerous vaccines being forced on the general public
This proposition is looking to inform the consumer of a potential danger, not forcing further dangers on us.
In fact, it is because of government regulation that Monsanto can get away with a product like Bt corn. USDA approval of the product makes suing them VERY expensive.
You're referring to massive companies buying regulations they want to make themselves more powerful and keep competitors down. I fail to see how that problem relates to this matter.
We’ve been selectively breeding food stock for thousands of years, ALL our food is genetically engineered, has been for a while. The only difference is now we’re more precise. People need to panic less.
>> “Carry_Okie opposing politicized government control of the marketing and sale of goods is inconsistent?” <<
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Exaggeration!
37 would only require some basic truthful information on the label, and prevent the Monsanto Co. from using its corporate wealth to come down on the small individual private farmer and misrepresent the facts in court.
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>> “You’ve really blown it here allying yourself with Greenpeace.” <<
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You’ve just joined with the Alinsky/Obama defamation machine and vowed to fight the truth to the death.
Monsanto GMO seeds do not render other Monsanto products useless. Monsanto GMO seed grows “Roundup-ready” plants that are ultra-tolerant of Roundup, allowing even more Roundup to be sold.
>> “By forcing the poor to starve because of the cost of food production without them” <<
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So you’ve joined the “God got it wrong” club? What happens to Shemitta? Got glad bags? Bag it.
>> “ALL our food is genetically engineered, has been for a while” <<
That is the big lie that was tried early in the thread.
Cross-pollination does not introduce animal genetic material to a plant. It does not produce any plant that requires naturally impossible events to produce a new species.
Cross pollination produces only plants that can happen naturally under the correct circumstances.
There’s no lie about it. Selective breeding IS genetic modification and we’ve been selectively breed for 2000 years. Anybody saying otherwise is a lying Luddite.
The only complaint about hybrid seed that I’ve ever heard is that it has to be repurchased each year because the resulting seed just grows plain old ordinary corn.
Tough luck, there’s no such thing as a free hybrid cornfield.
No, it is a huge lie. Cross pollination does not produce any seed that cannot happen naturally. Its only a question of probability.
Sorry all the lies are your. Selective breeding results in something that didn’t happen in nature. Whether or not it could it didn’t. It making genetic modifications. Weasel all you want the truth is the truth and the truth is we’ve been genetically modifying our food for thousands of years and whining about it now is Luddite paranoia.
It is you that weasel.
There is a vast chasm between genetic splicing and cross-pollination, and every successful cross-pollination results in a plant that could have happened in nature had the elements been juxtaposed.
No lie you can shout can change that fact.
Your whole argument is destroyed by the modern farm turkey. Selective breeding has caused them to be so plump they can’t breed. The modern farm turkey has to be artificially inseminated, so they couldn’t even occur in nature. And it was done entirely with selective breeding, no gene splicing. Selective breeding IS genetic modification, no matter how many times you spout the same lie.
So Monsanto produces weed seeds? Who knew? I’ll remember that the next time I need a 20lbs bag of premium dandelions.
That is a pretty dumb comment...you simply do not understand the science and markets. There are a number of conventional, as well as GM seed producers. And China is one of the largest researchers in GM seeds and are developing their own.
You obviously do not understand the definition of science.
This isn’t about ‘organic’ hocus-pocus.
It is about requiring vitally necessary information on the labels of substances sold as food, and protecting the small, honest farms from the massive deceptive legal teams of companies like Monsanto, that have set out to end normal agriculture in court.
Responsible farmers are not using Bt, and prop 37 has little to do with their right to use such as they will. It is strictly a responsible notice, and legal protection proposition.
It will save consumers money, because farmers will not be subject to the present constant legal attacks from the giant global corporazi like Monsanto, and DuPont.
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