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Proposition 37: Mandatory labeling of genetically engineered food
KABC TV Los Angelos ^ | 10/05/2012 | Robert Holguin

Posted on 10/21/2012 8:06:01 PM PDT by RushingWater

GLENDALE, Calif. (KABC) -- Proposition 37 is a measure to require mandatory labeling of genetically engineered food. There are two sides to this contentious issue.

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To: editor-surveyor
I said use logic, not LSD.

By your "logic," you'd have said the same when DuPont gave money to an NGO to ban freon.

121 posted on 10/22/2012 10:06:12 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: RushingWater
Crop yields here in Iowa are showing numbers that are almost miraculous with the brutal weather we had.
We had day after day of 100 degree weather and a severe drought.
At one point one of agricultural weather forecasters referred the upcoming cornbelt weather this summer; as the “kill shot” that would finish off the crop.

The AMAZING work that crop geneticists and plant breeders have done; is very much responsible for the disaster dodging crops that are being harvested.

Call it GMO; call it whatever; but it is vital and amazing technology

122 posted on 10/22/2012 10:07:50 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Carry_Okie

What is your angle in this?

I am absolutely flummoxed by the wild illogical stuff that you’re posting. You aren’t yourself today.

The massive MSM assault on 37 should be enough to tell you that you’re supporting the wrong side here.

How can avoiding GMO products do any harm to anyone on Earth? We’ve done without them for 6000 years, and didn’t start losing bees until they came along.


123 posted on 10/22/2012 10:22:04 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

>> “Call it GMO; call it whatever; but it is vital and amazing technology” <<

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If you want all real agriculture to become extinct anyway.


124 posted on 10/22/2012 10:24:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
“If you want all real agriculture to become extinct anyway.”

That was also probably said about hybrid seed corn in the 1930’s

125 posted on 10/22/2012 10:42:59 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I am absolutely flummoxed by the wild illogical stuff that you’re posting. You aren’t yourself today.

Carry_Okie opposing politicized government control of the marketing and sale of goods is inconsistent? Carry_Okie instead advocating private risk management is inconsistent? ROTFLMAO. You've really blown it here allying yourself with Greenpeace.

The massive MSM assault on 37 should be enough to tell you that you’re supporting the wrong side here.

Baaaaaa. BAAAAA!!! BAAAAA!!!

You should be feeling sheepish. Don't you realize that Monsanto makes buckets of money in pesticides that some GMOs render needless? I'm not talking about Bt here either.

What have you got against Zaiger's peaches?

How can avoiding GMO products do any harm to anyone on Earth?

By forcing the poor to starve because of the cost of food production without them? We're only a year or two ahead of wheat rust you know. Without GMO technology, you'd be looking at a famine in fairly short order.

We’ve done without them for 6000 years, and didn’t start losing bees until they came along.

We haven't had six billion people on earth relying on such a small amount of arable land in 6000 years either. Are you doing anything about that? I am.

What do varroa mites carrying viruses have to do with GMOs? That peril to honeybees has less to do with GMOs and more to do with an the perils of relying exclusively upon an introduced species. What have you got against our 1,200 species of native bees? They are far more resistant to mites and just as good at pollination, if not better. Oh, but they do need native plants to stay alive. Are you working on that? I am.

So much for your "logic." You've decided that bundling all GMOs together is "logical" even if it is merely for the purpose of making a more reliable and cost effective equivalent of the usual hybrid. Don't blame the tool, blame the user.

126 posted on 10/22/2012 10:53:01 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us choices: convert or kill, submit or die.)
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To: Carry_Okie
They somehow verify production of all sorts of products for your safety without a government agency telling them to do it.

The implication here is that we should just assume that food companies such as Monsanto really do have our best interests at heart. Are we to believe that adding a label that says "Contains Genetically Modified Ingredients" or "This product is genetically modified" would be prohibitively expensive?

Unfortunately, that means is so easily corrupted that you see dangerous vaccines being forced on the general public

This proposition is looking to inform the consumer of a potential danger, not forcing further dangers on us.

In fact, it is because of government regulation that Monsanto can get away with a product like Bt corn. USDA approval of the product makes suing them VERY expensive.

You're referring to massive companies buying regulations they want to make themselves more powerful and keep competitors down. I fail to see how that problem relates to this matter.

127 posted on 10/22/2012 1:30:14 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: RushingWater

We’ve been selectively breeding food stock for thousands of years, ALL our food is genetically engineered, has been for a while. The only difference is now we’re more precise. People need to panic less.


128 posted on 10/22/2012 1:36:58 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: Carry_Okie

>> “Carry_Okie opposing politicized government control of the marketing and sale of goods is inconsistent?” <<

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Exaggeration!

37 would only require some basic truthful information on the label, and prevent the Monsanto Co. from using its corporate wealth to come down on the small individual private farmer and misrepresent the facts in court.

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>> “You’ve really blown it here allying yourself with Greenpeace.” <<

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You’ve just joined with the Alinsky/Obama defamation machine and vowed to fight the truth to the death.

Monsanto GMO seeds do not render other Monsanto products useless. Monsanto GMO seed grows “Roundup-ready” plants that are ultra-tolerant of Roundup, allowing even more Roundup to be sold.

>> “By forcing the poor to starve because of the cost of food production without them” <<

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So you’ve joined the “God got it wrong” club? What happens to Shemitta? Got glad bags? Bag it.


129 posted on 10/22/2012 1:55:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: discostu

>> “ALL our food is genetically engineered, has been for a while” <<

That is the big lie that was tried early in the thread.

Cross-pollination does not introduce animal genetic material to a plant. It does not produce any plant that requires naturally impossible events to produce a new species.

Cross pollination produces only plants that can happen naturally under the correct circumstances.


130 posted on 10/22/2012 2:00:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

There’s no lie about it. Selective breeding IS genetic modification and we’ve been selectively breed for 2000 years. Anybody saying otherwise is a lying Luddite.


131 posted on 10/22/2012 2:04:53 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

The only complaint about hybrid seed that I’ve ever heard is that it has to be repurchased each year because the resulting seed just grows plain old ordinary corn.

Tough luck, there’s no such thing as a free hybrid cornfield.


132 posted on 10/22/2012 2:08:58 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: discostu

No, it is a huge lie. Cross pollination does not produce any seed that cannot happen naturally. Its only a question of probability.


133 posted on 10/22/2012 2:12:29 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Sorry all the lies are your. Selective breeding results in something that didn’t happen in nature. Whether or not it could it didn’t. It making genetic modifications. Weasel all you want the truth is the truth and the truth is we’ve been genetically modifying our food for thousands of years and whining about it now is Luddite paranoia.


134 posted on 10/22/2012 2:16:40 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: discostu

It is you that weasel.

There is a vast chasm between genetic splicing and cross-pollination, and every successful cross-pollination results in a plant that could have happened in nature had the elements been juxtaposed.

No lie you can shout can change that fact.


135 posted on 10/22/2012 2:42:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Your whole argument is destroyed by the modern farm turkey. Selective breeding has caused them to be so plump they can’t breed. The modern farm turkey has to be artificially inseminated, so they couldn’t even occur in nature. And it was done entirely with selective breeding, no gene splicing. Selective breeding IS genetic modification, no matter how many times you spout the same lie.


136 posted on 10/22/2012 2:44:58 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Monsanto GMO seeds do not render other Monsanto products useless. Monsanto GMO seed grows “Roundup-ready” plants that are ultra-tolerant of Roundup, allowing even more Roundup to be sold.

So Monsanto produces weed seeds? Who knew? I’ll remember that the next time I need a 20lbs bag of premium dandelions.

137 posted on 10/22/2012 3:00:46 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: editor-surveyor
You know that organic farmers are allowed to spray Bt directly on crops, don't you? Bt is a natural insecticide found in most soil...do you think that the organic farmers should not be allowed to use Bt. You simply do not understand the science.
138 posted on 10/22/2012 3:09:58 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: acapesket

That is a pretty dumb comment...you simply do not understand the science and markets. There are a number of conventional, as well as GM seed producers. And China is one of the largest researchers in GM seeds and are developing their own.


139 posted on 10/22/2012 3:12:29 PM PDT by Aussiebabe
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To: Aussiebabe

You obviously do not understand the definition of science.

This isn’t about ‘organic’ hocus-pocus.

It is about requiring vitally necessary information on the labels of substances sold as food, and protecting the small, honest farms from the massive deceptive legal teams of companies like Monsanto, that have set out to end normal agriculture in court.

Responsible farmers are not using Bt, and prop 37 has little to do with their right to use such as they will. It is strictly a responsible notice, and legal protection proposition.

It will save consumers money, because farmers will not be subject to the present constant legal attacks from the giant global corporazi like Monsanto, and DuPont.


140 posted on 10/22/2012 3:27:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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