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Tests only identify Zimmerman's DNA on handgun
AP ^ | 09/19/12 | Mike Schneider

Posted on 09/19/2012 8:30:22 AM PDT by sirchtruth

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Forensic tests made public Wednesday show that George Zimmerman's was the only DNA that could be identified on the grip of the gun used to fatally shoot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

The results rule out Martin's DNA from being on the gun's grip. Zimmerman's DNA also was identified on the gun's holster, but no determination could be made as to whether Martin's DNA was on the gun's holster, according to the report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

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Interesting.
1 posted on 09/19/2012 8:30:26 AM PDT by sirchtruth
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Zimmerman's DNA also was identified on the gun's holster, but no determination could be made as to whether Martin's DNA was on the gun's holster, according to the report from the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

This is BS! Why could "No Determination" be made? What does that mean?

2 posted on 09/19/2012 8:34:09 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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Yes , interesting, but may only be selective (source is AssPress). Did they test any /residuals remains found on the slide or barrel?

IIRC, some FReepers have postulated that M had his hand(s) on the slide and the weapon did not cycle. That would explain the “as found” empty chamber.


3 posted on 09/19/2012 8:34:24 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: sirchtruth

So he could have been reaching for the gun; we don’t know. What we do know is Zimmerman can claim self-defense from the beating he was taking anyway. That is, with evudence of his injuries and lacking contrary evidence about who started the fight or at what point the decision to shoot was made.


4 posted on 09/19/2012 8:40:14 AM PDT by Tublecane
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Did Zimmerman claim he touched the gun?


5 posted on 09/19/2012 8:41:34 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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6 posted on 09/19/2012 8:42:35 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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And I’m sure they only found Zimmerman’s DNA through blood samples in the grass and sidewalk where Martin had been using Z’s head as a basketball.


7 posted on 09/19/2012 8:43:26 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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I don’t think Z said that T got his hands on the gun.

I think what Z recalled is that as he struggled against his attacker, his concealed weapon became exposed, and it was at that point T said to him, “you’re gonna die tonight”, but Z was able to get the gun and fire it before T could stop him or get the gun himself.


8 posted on 09/19/2012 8:46:43 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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That’s what I though. So why is the story written as if it was expected that Martin’s DNA would be on the gun. There is no reason that it should have been.

In hindsight, Zimmerman should have rubbed the gun handle in Trayvon’s hand I guess. If only he would have known that he was going to be railroaded.


9 posted on 09/19/2012 8:50:50 AM PDT by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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AP of course expects us to believe ZIMMERMAN IS GUILTY by this irrelevant revelation.


10 posted on 09/19/2012 8:51:49 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: sirchtruth
Not interesting. Zimmermann's version of events is that Martin was banging his head into the pavement and that he drew his weapon in self-defense and shot Martin.

Zimmermann's version does not entail Martin grabbing the weapon or a struggle for the weapon.

Zimmermann is not saying: "We struggled over the weapon and it accidentally went off, I didn't mean to shoot him." He is saying: "I shot him in self-defense."

11 posted on 09/19/2012 8:51:58 AM PDT by wideawake
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So if what you’re saying is accurate (and I’m sure it is) then this story doesn’t mean squat.


12 posted on 09/19/2012 8:52:01 AM PDT by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: sirchtruth
That's important because Zimmerman told police he opened fire only after the teenager reached for the gun that Zimmerman wore in a holster on his waist. The DNA findings suggest there's no evidence that Travyon touched the gun.

He said that he "reached" for his gun. He never said that he "touched" it.

13 posted on 09/19/2012 8:53:15 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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So if I pick up and handle something hundreds of times, and someone else only touches it (or grabs for it) once,....

It is shocking that only my DNA is found on the item.

Hmmmm.... Sounds like MSM logic to me.


14 posted on 09/19/2012 8:54:02 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Did Zimmerman claim he touched the gun?

The AP and Yahoo are just trying to make people think this makes a difference somehow! I don't think Zimmerman claimed Martin touched the gun.

Zimmerman says Martin had been on top of him, slamming his head against the ground and smothering his mouth and nose with his hand and arm when he grabbed his gun from a holster on his waist before Martin could get it.He shot the teenager once in the chest.

Why is this even news, AP?

15 posted on 09/19/2012 8:54:32 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: txrangerette

DUH.. This headline is answering a question that was never asked.. Who cares what the limited fingerprint evidence shows after we saw the damage that was OBVIOUS on Zimmerman’s head and face..


16 posted on 09/19/2012 8:56:18 AM PDT by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: sirchtruth

To my knowledge Zim never said Tre touched the gun or holster so the findings are consistent with Zim’s testimony but largely irrelevent.


17 posted on 09/19/2012 8:57:30 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The left wants to discredit capitalism so that people will accept marxism.)
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To: KansasGirl

this story says only ON THE GRIP. So why the selective testing? The fact they do not test on the rest of the gun is suspect. If the gun was tested w/o the defense expert present there is a surpression and spoiliation of evidence supression motion(s) inevitable.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 8:59:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: sirchtruth

This is typical law enforcement BS. If Zimmerman had the gun in hand on the grip to shoot how in the hell would that prove anything. Was Martin’s prints on the rest of the gun? Does America has the dumbest law enforcement in the world or was this info provided to the MSM just for the fun of it.


19 posted on 09/19/2012 9:00:42 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Uncle Chip
That's important because Zimmerman told police he opened fire only after the teenager reached for the gun that Zimmerman wore in a holster on his waist. The DNA findings suggest there's no evidence that Travyon touched the gun.

Where did this come from? I could not find this in the article.

20 posted on 09/19/2012 9:01:06 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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