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CNN Poll: Obama up six points over Romney
CNN ^ | 09/10/2012 | CNN Political Unit

Posted on 09/10/2012 1:45:07 PM PDT by nhwingut

(CNN) – A new survey indicates President Barack Obama moved up four points following the Democratic National Convention last week, and now has a six point advantage over his Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

According to a CNN/ORC International Poll released Monday, 52% of likely voters nationwide back the president, compared to 46% for Romney. Just before the convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, Obama was tied with Romney 48%-48%.

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; dnc; obama; poll; riggedpolls
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To: manc

Greg Gutfeld is awesome so I watch it just to see him, and Eric Bolling too


61 posted on 09/10/2012 2:44:00 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: nhwingut

and CNN tries to say it is not bias LOL.

Love the last line on tere.

How much have they been going after white Prods and now they’re staring on Catholics, next all of Christians.

Maybe one day most of those Catholics up north will wake the hell up


62 posted on 09/10/2012 2:44:00 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Bolling is good but that Gutfield.
Is he the guy with the nose which looks to have been smashed in and thinks he’s funny?


63 posted on 09/10/2012 2:48:06 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rushmom; All

My views exactly. Speaking absolutely literally, if my older dog, who’s 6.5 yr. old, with about the same remaining lifespan, were running against the Illegal, I’d vote for him to save America. It simply doesn’t matter who’s running against the Illegal; the election’s about terminal cancer vs. not cancer. I refuse to read or listen to any-saying; it can do nothing but reduce my absolute determination to do what I can to save this country from absolute, unspeakable evil.


64 posted on 09/10/2012 2:48:35 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: nhwingut

One thing is certain... even when we discount the Democrat oversampling in polls like this one, we cannot ignore the more trusted pollsters like Rasmussen (which polls likely voters ).

It REALLY looks like Obama is leading in the polls at this point in time. We have to be realistic. It is what it is.

The main question is not whether or not the economy is bad. The economy IS bad and people know it.

However the huge factor is HOW DEPENDENT ARE AMERICANS BECOMING ON GOVERNMENT?

If the answer to the above question is this — VERY. Then yes, Obama might even win and we have to sadly conclude that we have crossed the tipping point in this country.

I have a very sick feeling that this might be the case (God forbid ). Consider these factors:

1) Nearly HALF of Americans pay no taxes ( 47% last I read ).

2) 1 in 3 Americans are in some sort of government welfare program.

3) 45 Million people on food stamps. Up by over 15 million compared to 4 years ago.

4) Obama promising to “help” those underwater in their mortgages and college students and grads who cannot pay back their college loans.

5) Auto workers in swing states like Michigan and Ohio being brainwashed into believing that it is good to bail out GM because Obama cares and wants to save their jobs.

Those factors CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED.

Once a significant number of our populace suck on the government’s teat.... it becomes like a drug which is very difficult to withdraw from and they will vote accordingly.


65 posted on 09/10/2012 2:49:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
ANY Conservative who would vote for Obama needs to be taken to the wood shed and beaten with a sledge hammer. There is NO WAY in hell thats true

There's quite a few here on FR that support Obama over Romney. If you can't convince Freepers then you have little chance to convert independents.

That said, Romney support will be at about 52% in general election. Convention bounce is all due to Bill making Dem women all tingly.

66 posted on 09/10/2012 2:50:05 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: rushmom

I eyeball polls expecting a 34(R) / 34(D) / 32(I) breakdown.

Basically, I expect Republicans to turn out in AT LEAST equal numbers to Democrats this time. If a poll suggests otherwise, I immediately subtract the difference to get to equality of party.

If I adjust this poll accordingly, with it’s baked in +6% Democrat sample, their results flip flop from 52% D / 46% R to 46% D / 52% R.

Essentially CNN got it exactly backwards.

But that’s what you’d expect, isn’t it?


67 posted on 09/10/2012 2:55:20 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: Perdogg
•Obama is +1 on handling the economy 50 to 49. No survey EVER claims this

•Obama is +1 among men 48 to 47. Obama is typically down 6-8 points among men. He was +1 in 2008, not today

That SUCH BS. They expect us to believe that?

68 posted on 09/10/2012 3:28:13 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: nhwingut
Mark Levin is on right now stating that we have to vote obama out but he is convinced that romney either changes his campaign up or he loses. Laura Ingraham stated today that if the republicans cannot beat obama, that they need to quit. I know that these polls are skewed in many cases... no question... but romney is responsible for getting himself elected (a leader does this) and he should be ahead of obama by enough to make it impossible for these leftist organizations to spin the lie.

LLS

69 posted on 09/10/2012 3:38:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("if it looks like you are not gonna make it you gotta get mean, I mean plumb mad-dog mean" J. Wales)
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To: AmusedBystander
If you can't convince Freepers then you have little chance to convert independents.

Are you saying the anti-Romney Freeper faction and independents hold similar views?

When the polls talk about Independents, they are referring to Moderates, not Conservatives who are not members of the Republican Party. Romney has a better chance with Moderates, as shown by his nearly 10% advantage among them.

Romeny's got the fiscal and defense conservatives: he has trouble with the religious conservatives.

70 posted on 09/10/2012 3:43:29 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: Uncle Miltie

Yeah, the only one that really bothers me is Rasmussen.


71 posted on 09/10/2012 4:07:06 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: AmusedBystander
I heard Rove on Hannity this afternoon. He thought the 5% spread was due to an increase in enthusiasm in non-battleground states. So Billy-Jeff and the one got some New Yorkers and Californians to say, “O.K., I guess I'll go for Obama, again”
72 posted on 09/10/2012 4:12:40 PM PDT by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner
I think Rush is right on this one here. The MSM is trying to dis-spirited the conservatives/republicans voters. I think it will backfire. I have a hunch that as November get closer, the tea party will organize and fight to get out the votes.

It is still early for anyone on our side to panic. There are still debates and October surprises to deal with.

Forget all the polls. They are pure BS. We need to keep our hopes up and continue to battle and fight to get this bum out office. The moment we concede we will lose.

Britt Hume and those who have given up already can go suck rock.

73 posted on 09/10/2012 4:24:18 PM PDT by sennabanderas
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To: MNJohnnie

“.....doctrine of preemptive political surrender?”

I don’t surrender at anything, but if Romney doesn’t get off his dead ass and light this campaign on fire, we will all be wasting our time and stuck with 4 more years of Obama hell.

Propaganda works, that is why the enemy uses it, daily—24/7.

I want Obama and his filthy democrats out of power, so much so that I can no longer find the words to accurately describe my contempt.

Romney simply MUST begin street fighting and exposing Obama for what he really is, while educating the American people of what their futures are going to look like under a Romney administration, or he is not going to win.


74 posted on 09/10/2012 5:29:01 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Ryan and the other guy.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Perdogg

Very good analysis Perdogg. The best part of FR. Deconstructing the myths and polls of MSM.


75 posted on 09/10/2012 5:35:46 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: nhwingut

I am waiting for polls that state they are up by 15 before I even think it is even.

JoMa


76 posted on 09/10/2012 5:41:22 PM PDT by joma89
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To: nhwingut
Here is how I see the political ID poll data breakdown for the CNN/ORC national poll published September 10th, 2012:

The original national CNN data, 709 Likely Voters for September 07-09, 2012:

Demographics Republican Democrat Independent Poll Numbers
Romney 96% 3% 54% Romney 46%
Obama 2% 97% 40% Obama 52%
Neither/Other 2% 0% 4% Neither/Other 2%
No Opinion: 1% 0% 2% No Opinion: 1%
100.0% 100.0% 100.0% Total: 100.0%


CNN/ORC poll, September 7-9 2012, PDF - Page #21 of 48, (Question 1/1A).


The derived poll data presented below for the same national CNN, Likely Voters, n = 709

Rounding the below by plus or minus (0.49%) yields above published (rounded) CNN two digit poll data.


Demographics Republican Democrat Independent   Poll Numbers     Adjusted Numbers  
Romney 96.47% 2.51% 53.51% Romney 45.97% Romney   50.70% Romney
Obama 1.51% 97.49% 40.49% Obama 51.51% Obama   46.80% Obama
Neither/Other 1.51% 0.00% 3.95% Not Sure 1.71% Neither/Other   1.71% Neither/Other
No Opinion: 0.51% 0.00% 2.05% Do not know: 0.81% No Opinion:   0.79% No Opinion:
  100.0% 100.0% 100.0% Total: 100.0%     100.0%  
                   
                   
        Results       New Weighting  
        (Weighting)          
    `              
Poll Information     Republican 28.70% Republican     35.00%  
CNN     Democrat 38.96% Democrat     35.00%  
9/7-9/2012     Independent 32.35% Independent     30.00%  
MOE 3.68%                  
709 LV       100.0%       100.0%  
page #21/48                  
                   
                   



Looks as if CNN/ORC have published a Democrat [ +10.26%] Likely Voter oversampled poll. Just for fun, at the far right of the spreadsheet data is a "what-if" the political ID breakdown was (35%R, 35%D, 30%I) - Romney on top by ~4%.


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77 posted on 09/10/2012 8:00:44 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: nhwingut

Nuts!


78 posted on 09/10/2012 8:04:45 PM PDT by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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