Posted on 09/10/2012 1:45:07 PM PDT by nhwingut
(CNN) A new survey indicates President Barack Obama moved up four points following the Democratic National Convention last week, and now has a six point advantage over his Republican challenger Mitt Romney.
According to a CNN/ORC International Poll released Monday, 52% of likely voters nationwide back the president, compared to 46% for Romney. Just before the convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, Obama was tied with Romney 48%-48%.
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Greg Gutfeld is awesome so I watch it just to see him, and Eric Bolling too
and CNN tries to say it is not bias LOL.
Love the last line on tere.
How much have they been going after white Prods and now they’re staring on Catholics, next all of Christians.
Maybe one day most of those Catholics up north will wake the hell up
Bolling is good but that Gutfield.
Is he the guy with the nose which looks to have been smashed in and thinks he’s funny?
My views exactly. Speaking absolutely literally, if my older dog, who’s 6.5 yr. old, with about the same remaining lifespan, were running against the Illegal, I’d vote for him to save America. It simply doesn’t matter who’s running against the Illegal; the election’s about terminal cancer vs. not cancer. I refuse to read or listen to any-saying; it can do nothing but reduce my absolute determination to do what I can to save this country from absolute, unspeakable evil.
One thing is certain... even when we discount the Democrat oversampling in polls like this one, we cannot ignore the more trusted pollsters like Rasmussen (which polls likely voters ).
It REALLY looks like Obama is leading in the polls at this point in time. We have to be realistic. It is what it is.
The main question is not whether or not the economy is bad. The economy IS bad and people know it.
However the huge factor is HOW DEPENDENT ARE AMERICANS BECOMING ON GOVERNMENT?
If the answer to the above question is this VERY. Then yes, Obama might even win and we have to sadly conclude that we have crossed the tipping point in this country.
I have a very sick feeling that this might be the case (God forbid ). Consider these factors:
1) Nearly HALF of Americans pay no taxes ( 47% last I read ).
2) 1 in 3 Americans are in some sort of government welfare program.
3) 45 Million people on food stamps. Up by over 15 million compared to 4 years ago.
4) Obama promising to help those underwater in their mortgages and college students and grads who cannot pay back their college loans.
5) Auto workers in swing states like Michigan and Ohio being brainwashed into believing that it is good to bail out GM because Obama cares and wants to save their jobs.
Those factors CANNOT BE OVERLOOKED.
Once a significant number of our populace suck on the governments teat.... it becomes like a drug which is very difficult to withdraw from and they will vote accordingly.
There's quite a few here on FR that support Obama over Romney. If you can't convince Freepers then you have little chance to convert independents.
That said, Romney support will be at about 52% in general election. Convention bounce is all due to Bill making Dem women all tingly.
I eyeball polls expecting a 34(R) / 34(D) / 32(I) breakdown.
Basically, I expect Republicans to turn out in AT LEAST equal numbers to Democrats this time. If a poll suggests otherwise, I immediately subtract the difference to get to equality of party.
If I adjust this poll accordingly, with it’s baked in +6% Democrat sample, their results flip flop from 52% D / 46% R to 46% D / 52% R.
Essentially CNN got it exactly backwards.
But that’s what you’d expect, isn’t it?
Obama is +1 among men 48 to 47. Obama is typically down 6-8 points among men. He was +1 in 2008, not today
That SUCH BS. They expect us to believe that?
LLS
Are you saying the anti-Romney Freeper faction and independents hold similar views?
When the polls talk about Independents, they are referring to Moderates, not Conservatives who are not members of the Republican Party. Romney has a better chance with Moderates, as shown by his nearly 10% advantage among them.
Romeny's got the fiscal and defense conservatives: he has trouble with the religious conservatives.
Yeah, the only one that really bothers me is Rasmussen.
It is still early for anyone on our side to panic. There are still debates and October surprises to deal with.
Forget all the polls. They are pure BS. We need to keep our hopes up and continue to battle and fight to get this bum out office. The moment we concede we will lose.
Britt Hume and those who have given up already can go suck rock.
“.....doctrine of preemptive political surrender?”
I don’t surrender at anything, but if Romney doesn’t get off his dead ass and light this campaign on fire, we will all be wasting our time and stuck with 4 more years of Obama hell.
Propaganda works, that is why the enemy uses it, daily—24/7.
I want Obama and his filthy democrats out of power, so much so that I can no longer find the words to accurately describe my contempt.
Romney simply MUST begin street fighting and exposing Obama for what he really is, while educating the American people of what their futures are going to look like under a Romney administration, or he is not going to win.
Very good analysis Perdogg. The best part of FR. Deconstructing the myths and polls of MSM.
I am waiting for polls that state they are up by 15 before I even think it is even.
JoMa
The original national CNN data, 709 Likely Voters for September 07-09, 2012:
The derived poll data presented below for the same national CNN, Likely Voters, n = 709
Rounding the below by plus or minus (0.49%) yields above published (rounded) CNN two digit poll data.
Looks as if CNN/ORC have published a Democrat [ +10.26%] Likely Voter oversampled poll. Just for fun, at the far right of the spreadsheet data is a "what-if" the political ID breakdown was (35%R, 35%D, 30%I) - Romney on top by ~4%.
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Nuts!
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