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When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
Whiskey & Gunpowder ^ | Aug 1st, 2012 | Jim Karger

Posted on 09/08/2012 7:57:38 PM PDT by bopdowah

“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat that the US government is going to take their firearms.

And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”

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To: bopdowah

I’m sorry, but once I reach the word “neo-con” in any article by anyone, I stop reading.


41 posted on 09/08/2012 8:29:59 PM PDT by fourth and three
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To: JRandomFreeper

<><>How many deer hunting licenses were sold in the US last year?<><>

In just Ga alone, more than 500,000 deer hunters are expected in the field opening day. All armed, most with high powered rifles, and many with off road vehicles.

How many law enforcement folks spent more than 5 years searching for Eric Rudolf? Just several hundred like him intent on disrupting normal LEO activities would tie up an enormous amount of resources.


42 posted on 09/08/2012 8:30:05 PM PDT by wrench
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To: bopdowah

If things get to that stage, learn from what happened in Germany under the Third Reich.

Once disarmed, one IS helpless and defenseless.

Before that stage is reached, realize that to a collectivist government ALL citizens are like Jews in Germany.

Therefore, if you are going to be jailed/killed, have a plan for who you will kill before they kill you. DO NOT DIE LIKE A JEW IN GERMANY.

There are things worse than death, as Churchill’s famous words he used to rally the English so clearly state:
“If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Remember the last sentence.

Then, get involved in politics, lest you be ruled by your inferiors - something the Romans knew.

One other observation. Make sure you can do head shots, because that lawyer is correct about the armor on the collectivist gun toter attacking you. Lot of range time, or get what may be a good substitute: Laserlyte Pistol Trainer - & only $80.

Use the laserlyte to practice point & shoot uintil your reflexes are such that when you squeeze the trigger, the dot appears where you want. Try it, this is the best training device since the private range, unlimited ammo and time and income to support all the preceeding.

PS I am an NRA instructor, and this laser is well recommended by instructors.

PPS I am not getting paid for the above. Good data for you, even if it is free.

;-)

The attorney seems to put mere survival above being a citizen of the Republic. Mere survival is not enough for Americans.


43 posted on 09/08/2012 8:30:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Texas Fossil

last year I think it was found somewhere in the south, Georgia or some place like that out in the woods a setup of four Benelli autoloading 12 gauge shotguns that was fully remotely operable through the internet, they had the connection, the camera and was just waiting for some wild pigs. And a DIY chaingun isn’t hard for someone with machine shop skills, I know of quite a few plans from even one made for .22LR cartridges.


44 posted on 09/08/2012 8:33:46 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: wrench

That could be worth a story by Travis McGee


45 posted on 09/08/2012 8:33:59 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: bopdowah
i've got Hep-C and it's killing me so if it's truly for real, i'm too old for that, to goto jail or to worry about it so, no...
46 posted on 09/08/2012 8:35:59 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Texas Fossil

One of my goals is to make a simple gatling gun using 12 gauge shells, and then seeing how fast I can wind it by hand.

And for when the time arises a compact motor can take its place.


47 posted on 09/08/2012 8:36:41 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: GeronL

“enough”

And what number do you think that would be?

If they start training desk jockies, don’t you think we’ll notice?

How many citizens are under uniform today?

Fed, State, local,

What percentage of Americans would be non-cooperative, in comparison?


48 posted on 09/08/2012 8:40:12 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: bopdowah

My comment on the article, posted over there:

Many of us are very sophisticated, Mr. Karger. For example, we know that the Internet is the new airspace. He who commands the airspace wins the war (c.f. Egypt “Arab Spring”). Some of us are actually skilled computer professionals who design security solutions for a living. And when one designs a security solution, one must learn how a hacker defeats a security solution.

But enough about the electronic airspace.

Let’s talk about morale on the part of the confiscators. They live in America and have homes and families. Wouldn’t morale suffer if they are asked to fire on fellow citizens? Wouldn’t things be tough on them too?

You presume a Hobson’s Choice. There are so many options beyond the two you (falsely) offer us.

Cheers!


49 posted on 09/08/2012 8:40:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Communist Party = Democrats. Socialist Party = Republicans. WE NEED A CAPITALIST FREEDOM PARTY!)
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To: umgud

I think its a typo, s/b when they come for your gums. Silly lawyers.

This article seems like deja vu all over again.


50 posted on 09/08/2012 8:40:44 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: G Larry
The Social Security office and FAA have been buying tensd of thousands of hollow points, many government agencies doing the same.

If they start training desk jockies, don’t you think we’ll notice?

Looks like they are.

51 posted on 09/08/2012 8:42:03 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

If LEO’s are NOT getting paid because their city/county/state/country is broke/bankrupt, they are not going to care about your guns.


52 posted on 09/08/2012 8:42:10 PM PDT by yadent
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To: bopdowah

““And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?””

Except, You forgot surrounded by 2 or 3 of the guys who came for them. Besides, i might get away!


53 posted on 09/08/2012 8:42:37 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bopdowah

““And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?””

Except, You forgot surrounded by 2 or 3 of the guys who came for them. Besides, i might get away!


54 posted on 09/08/2012 8:42:45 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: bopdowah

Most of the law enforcement people and the leaders in the military are married.

“How was work today, Dear?”

“Oh, OK. I killed some guy and his family to get their guns.”


55 posted on 09/08/2012 8:42:45 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: bopdowah

I won’t comply. I think that is probably the rationale for all these odd ball agencies buying large amounts of handgun ammunition. I suspect that the Food Stamp President does not trust the military and will go to consolidating all the odd ball agencies into Homeland Security. A lot of the big city police will be co-opted, but rural police, sheriffs, state police and western, midwestern and southern states will not comply. I don’t think the confiscation will be a stand alone operation. I think it will adjunct with a crisis such as an EMP, natural disaster, or some other crisis. It will then be sold as necessary to keep order, but the only disorder will be in the 50 largest progressive rat holes, but will be used for justification against all.


56 posted on 09/08/2012 8:42:48 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: bopdowah
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
57 posted on 09/08/2012 8:43:19 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: FlyingEagle

Obama was at one time a lawyer and the whole country can see what an idiot he turned out to be.

The words of Churchill ring proud and true, better to fight this now when the odds are on OUR side. The more people are armed the better, quantity has its own quality.


58 posted on 09/08/2012 8:44:12 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (OPSEC)
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To: fourth and three
I’m sorry, but once I reach the word “neo-con” in any article by anyone, I stop reading.

Bingo.

I saw that too. I realized right there, that this was written by a bed wetting, Big Brother loving, liberal.

59 posted on 09/08/2012 8:45:04 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bopdowah
The agents who side with the government in the oppression of citizens need to know that we know where they and their families live, shop, vacation etc. How long would it take before they realized that the paycheck wasn't worth the payBACK.
60 posted on 09/08/2012 8:45:39 PM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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