Posted on 09/06/2012 8:24:18 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
Apparently, archaeologists have also found a few human skeletal remains at the excavation site
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September 4, 2012 11:10 AM GMT
More than hundred bones of animals, now extinct, that thrived over 10,000 years ago (the late Pleistocene period), have been discovered in the state of Hidalgo, in central-eastern Mexico.
The discovery was made at a construction site of a wastewater treatment plant near the river El Salto in the city of Atotonilco de Tula, archaeologists at the National Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), announced in a statement.
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The remains include bones of several extinct animals including mastodons and mammoths among others, which were found scattered at different distances within an area of approximately 100 hectares, and as deep as 10 metres.
“The skeletal remains of extinct animals, some of which measure up to 1.60 m, corresponding to ribs, vertebrae, skulls, jaws, defences (fangs), horns and shells, of species such as glyptodont, mastodon, mammoth, camel, horse, deer, bison and possibly other as yet unidentified,” INAH archaeologists said, adding that it took about five months of excavation work to dig out all the remains.
Though remains of mammoths have been found in the past as well, archaeologists are dubbing it as the biggest discovery of the Ice Age’s large-bodied animal remains ever made in the region.
“This is the most numerous and varied discovery of remains of extinct megafauna, found together, registered so far in the Basin of Mexico” INAH archaeologist Alicia Bonfil Olivera said.
Human Bones
Apparently, archaeologists have also found a few human skeletal remains at the excavation site but scientific investigation for confirmation is yet to be done. However, two stone tools found in the excavation suggest that the bones may be of a human.
“The characteristics and size of some bones indicate that it is human limbs, which is not surprising because it is known that man lived in central Mexico at that time.”
The sediments and sand layer in which the faunal remains were found further indicate that the animals and possibly humans probably were trapped in landslides and got buried in the debris.
There's a lot of that going on, moreso in the last few years than previously it seems. I've run across Neal Adams' expanding planet ideas before and if it weren't for his ability to put the idea into motion and make everything fit so neatly together I'd be calling BS. I haven't given it a lot of thought simply because it's hard to get my pea brain around. The one truly puzzling thing I've run across about the "spreading" seafloors is that layers of sediment are thicker by several orders of magnitude on the newer seafloor than older seafloor. Something else I can't wrap my brain around.
I'm talking whole continents here; hundreds, maybe thousands of feet at a whack. For example, Darwin was astonished at the specter of the west coast of South America. You're familiar with his observations?
Sharp peaks and ridges? Think freeze/thaw cycle for instance, and its likely effect on, say, the Andes. If they've been there a gazillion years, WHY are they still sharp? If you've got some answers, I'll be happy to have a looksee.
I don't know you, haven't run across you before, hope I never do again, you sound like one of the reasons I stopped contributing to threads of this nature. No new information allowed, right? Nothing that doesn't fit with your mindset? All the science is settled, it was all dealt with by old white men, most of them from the clergy, a couple of hundred years ago.
Tread with caution all who enter here, closed minds are at work. The Principals of Geology was written by a man who never left europe, iirc. Charles Lyell (1797-1875)
Poor Darwin, didn't have the guts to write what he saw, in deference to Lyell.
But the truth of his observations of the geology of South America is in his Private Journals. I suggest you read what he had to say about what he saw - and the conclusions he reached, none of which you will find elsewhere.
PS. Don't bother to reply, I'm outa here. The insults aren't worth the aggro.
CRUSTAL AGES should do it for you, the oldest crust is at the margins.
How did they end up in a mass? Herded by extreme weather?
Could be but explain the "appearance" of the Andes to me for starters and I'll check your work to see how accurately it fits with what we actually see. Take all night if you'd like. I'm hitting the sack now so your essay will be due by, say, 10:00 CST tomorrow.
AND the thickest sediment is nearer the mid ocean ridges(NEWEST seafloor), AND possibly on the margins but haven't looked into that. The sediment is very thin to almost non existent on the plains. Go figger...
Damn drug cartels were even causing a ruckus back then . . .
I took a quick look at the map and it seems to be contrary to what I’ve run across before. That means I’ll have to do some digging around tomorrow to see where I may have picked up the other “observation”. My guess is that NOAA is probably pretty close, so...
EARTH IN UPHEAVAL:
Extinction - Page 226,
In numerous places of the world the bone content of caves indicates that they served as hide-outs in times of supreme danger. Lions and tigers, wolves and hyenas, gazelles and hares shared the refuge and there found their common grave. But not all places where such assemblages of bones are discovered were sought for refuge.
In many cases the animals were swept from large areas by a tidal wave and thrown against rocks. And the water rushing through the fissures left behind the animals with all their bones broken within their torn bodies.
From as far as China, to England and France and the islands of the Mediterranean, examples of fissures of fissures with bones, splintered and mingled together, have been presented in the book.
Not only fissures in the rocks but caverns in the hills may have been filled with bones, though the caverns might not have been sought for shelter. An irrupting sea or great lake, lifted from its bed and carrying its own detritus and land debris, swept heterogeneous herds of animals and carried then to the farthest reaches and threw over them hills of gravel, rock and earth...
(There’s really no substitute for reading the book)
Enlarge the sediment image, take a closer look.
So true, I remember taking a geology class at University, the professor said that geological upheaval takes thousands of years to occur, I was like really, then explain Mt. Saint Helens and various earthquakes, while small, they can occur in an instant with devastating results, not to mention landslides and tsunamis that can result, the earth is a rather violent place as of late, I firmly believe geological change on a major scale can occur in an instant, my professor made it sound as if nothing occurs suddenly, BS, I still believe San Andreas could fling California like a rubber band north towards Alaska. Heck not to mention the Canary Islands dropping off into the ocean, causing a huge tsunami to rush towards New York, similar to the one that hit Indonesia after an earthquake. College professors are so holier than though no wonder they’re all liberals, God can change the earth in an instant, he doesn’t abide by man’s clock.
The two fellas with the sticks are waiting for an SUV to come roaring down the road. Then from the smashed roadkill they use the sticks to make the grand daddy of corn dogs.
Great thread. Thanks for sticking around. I went looking for info about the book and found where Immanuel wrote a newspaper colum for two years under the pen name Observer.
He was writing when Israel become a State
Since the first day radio waves began to carry messages over the air and for many days to come, there has not been and there will not be made an announcement as will come today.
A homeless nation, a sufferer among the peoples of the earth, a living reproach to humanity, a victor over 2,000 years’ persecution, is no longer homeless.
The Sabbath candles kindled tonight in Palestine will still be burning when the Jewish State is born.
All who believe in Destiny and Providence ought to say a prayer of thanksgiving. The President of the United States should lead this nation in prayer. Is not the redemption of Israel a divine promise, and a fulfillment of a covenant, and a benediction for all humanity?
Are not the Hebrew Bible, the Christian Gospels, the Moslem Koran, full of prophecies of this day?
http://www.varchive.org/obs/index.htm
Actually, the ignorance is on his part, when he states that
“if the Noah account were true, we’d still have mammoths and huge armadillos”
There is no logic in that.
Didn’t God say “Take all the animals?”
Gen 7:2-3 2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth.
The key to this verse is the term "kind". The "sample" animals that were taken on the ark contained all the "information" necessary to produce all the variety you see today.
Now, if you're thinking that there should be giant armadillos and mammoths if this were true, why couldn't they become extinct AFTER the flood? To leave that out is to put forth a logically flawed argument.
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