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Obama lawyer warned against certifying eligibility
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Posted on 09/03/2012 7:39:43 PM PDT by tsowellfan

'For any party official to do so would be to perjure him or herself'

A former U.S. Justice Department attorney who founded the government watchdog Judicial Watch and later Freedom Watch has warned a key Barack Obama attorney that Democrat Party or state elections officials certifying Obama’s eligibility for the 2012 election could become the targets of election-fraud charges.

The letter from Larry Klayman explains that’s because those officials simply cannot know Obama’s eligibility for sure, and the law doesn’t allow them to make assumptions.

In his letter to Robert Bauer, general counsel to the Democratic National Committee, Klayman explained that the evidence shows no one knows for sure about Obama’s eligibility, so letters from the DNC to states about Obama’s 2012 candidacy may be problematic.

“There is therefore no longer any state or national official in the Democratic Party who can escape legal responsibility for ignoring the proof herein provided, and a plea of ignorance of the facts will no longer be possible...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012election; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; dnc; eligibility; larryklayman; naturalborncitizen; nbc; obama
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To: Diamond

I smell Obot troll.


281 posted on 09/06/2012 11:43:23 AM PDT by Ray76
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To: Triple

Somebody just needs to knock me upside the head and say, “Nellie, it’s obvious these people are spinning. Let’s just watch them spin ‘til they fall over and throw up on themselves.”

lol


282 posted on 09/06/2012 11:44:51 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Notice that the OCR and optimization arguments they made ad infinitum to protect the WHLFCOLB.pdf have all vanished.

The combination of abnormalities in that file CANNOT exist in a scan of a paper document. (layering - grouping content, layers - bit characteristics, chromatic abberation - absent, dark green in place of black, pixel size, letter - size/ shape/ placement)

I went around and around with the fogbowers on that - until it was obvious to all that they were just making silly arguments.

BTW - They have your picture/name and a long thread in your honor. It proves that you are having an impact.


283 posted on 09/06/2012 12:07:17 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Ray76

Yes, that’s it! I’m a sleeper Obot troll going all the way back to 1998!


284 posted on 09/06/2012 2:36:38 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond
The date of your joining FR is immaterial, your posts in this thread are. You have employed Obot methods in this thread, posts that are repetitive, circular, non-responsive, etc, hence "smell". Note I did not say you are an Obot.
285 posted on 09/06/2012 3:22:00 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: butterdezillion
" But when Onaka verifies something he is basically put on oath. He is CERTIFYING something according to the requirements of the law (HRS 338-14.3 and HRS 338-17, specifically). When thus put under oath and asked to say that Obama was born in Hawaii on Aug 4, 1961 etc..... Onaka kept silent. He must verify it if he can..... AND UNDER OATH, HE WOULDN’T VERIFY ANY OF THOSE SPECIFIC FACTS. "


Might want to ad to that, that the Democratic Party of Hawaii back in 2008 did not or could not certify Obama as " Constitutionally Eligible ".

Also ? ad to that ?
The same legal counsel that was on the board of legal counsel for the DPofH is the very same person who had inside information about Obama's records, birth, and is the same person who was SAD's ( Stanley Ann Dunham ) lawyer for her divorce..


Sound's all to cozy to be just a coincidence.
286 posted on 09/06/2012 7:27:07 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Diamond
" There may be some bureaucratically inscrutable reason for it."

Let's say, out of the extreme realm of possibilities, that ?
For the sake of this argument that this only happens in Hawaii.... what if ? Bennett also submitted that form to other states and had no run around with the people in other state's Department of Health or Vital Statistics ?

Come on now, doesn't this just spark a little suspicion ? raise a few eye brows ?

You got to remember, back in 1961 Hawaii could not have been giving out Birth Certificates fast enough and I can only guess that there was not much over sight of what was going on.
Back in 1961 in Hawaii, in which ? just became a new state of the union just a few years earlier there must have been a lot of room for fraud back then.

You know how you can tell when someone is lying to you ? or trying to pull a fast one on you ?

It's when their information, or story keeps on changing.
Their story and facts do not line up.

287 posted on 09/06/2012 7:38:47 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion
" Normal, valid records are prima facie evidence - “on its face”, which means that the documentation is such that the claim is credible, and in a court of law the claims would be presumed to be true unless there was compelling ( outside evidence. i.e. other documentation, wittiness. ) evidence that the claims were not true. The burden of proof falls on the person who DOUBTS the claims on a prima facie record. "


288 posted on 09/06/2012 7:44:07 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist; edge919
Bennett certainly was getting the run-around - no doubt about it. I deal with bureaucrats a lot and once the run-around starts it's hard to stop. Then get a lawyer involved and it just gets worse, as happened here. Bennett got the run-around for 2 months, as show by this article about the emails that were going back and forth that edge919 posted to me.

In my opinion almost anything is possible in the fraud department with Obama. He is an evil, pathological, narcissistic liar and con man.

What I don't know is how far Hawaii bureaucrats be prepared to go to cover his a**. I wouldn't be surprised by anything, though, anymore.

Cordially,

289 posted on 09/06/2012 8:17:53 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: tsowellfan

obumpa


290 posted on 09/06/2012 8:24:49 PM PDT by Dajjal (Justice Robert Jackson was wrong -- the Constitution IS a suicide pact.)
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To: Diamond

Absolutely, that’s what liars, opps, I meant Laywers are paid to do..... now ? I am not saying that there are not honest and good lawyers out there, but, they push the envelope as far as they can what is considered legal.


291 posted on 09/06/2012 11:01:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: butterdezillion

Latest News of Today : Clint Eastwood: “President Obama is the Greatest Hoax Ever Perpetrated on the American People”


292 posted on 09/07/2012 3:22:03 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: tsowellfan

Looks like Mr Klayman just put Perjury on the record for a whole lot of cowards and traitors.


293 posted on 09/08/2012 5:49:12 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: butterdezillion

Looks like the DNC has now certified his eligibility to NY SOS.

Kerchner has the doc on birtherreport.com


294 posted on 09/08/2012 6:05:01 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

Antonio Villaraigosa and Alice Germond have signed it, stating he is qualified as required by the constitution.


295 posted on 09/08/2012 6:15:47 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: tsowellfan

So I guess Villaraigosa has seen a valid birth certificate, just like he heard two thirds of the delegates vote for God.

Let the law suits begin.


296 posted on 09/08/2012 6:33:07 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER

PERJURY!!!!

Slam their sorry a$$es in jail. NOW!!!


297 posted on 09/08/2012 6:46:45 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Bob Bauer received Larry Klayman’s letter by courier at 2:30pm EDT on Aug 31 and by mail delivery the next day. USPS tracking number 0311 2550 0003 7109 9822 .

He has no legal excuse. The state AG’s should be falling all over each other to be the first to put his sorry a$$ into the slammer. Looks like NY gets a head start on all the others.

Time for everybody to flood the NY AG’s office with reports of substantiated subornation of perjury and election fraud committed by Bob Bauer and perjury and election fraud committed by Alice Travis Germond and Antonio Villaigarosa.


298 posted on 09/08/2012 8:43:47 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Hotlanta Mike; TheCipher; little jeremiah; bitt; STARWISE; onyx; edge919; Fantasywriter; ...

Bob Bauer received Larry Klayman’s letter by courier at 2:30pm EDT on Aug 31 and by mail delivery the next day. USPS tracking number 0311 2550 0003 7109 9822 .

He has no legal excuse. The state AG’s should be falling all over each other to be the first to put his sorry a$$ into the slammer. Looks like NY gets a head start on all the others. Time to show us what is meant by a NY minute.

Time for everybody to flood the NY AG’s office with reports of substantiated subornation of perjury and election fraud committed by Bob Bauer and perjury and election fraud committed by Alice Travis Germond and Antonio Villaigarosa.

Can somebody ping the NY list?

Contact information: New York
Attorney General Eric Schneiderman
Dept. of Law - The Capitol, 2nd fl.
Albany, NY 12224
Phone: 1-800-771-7755
Web form: http://www.ag.ny.gov/questions-comments-attorney-general-eric-t-schneiderman

NY Secretary of State’s office:

New York (D)
Hon. Cesar Perales
Secretary of State -A
One Comerce Plaza
99 Washington Ave, Suite 1100
Albany, NY 12231
518-486-9844
Fax 518-474-4765
Email: hwilbard@dox.state.ny.us


299 posted on 09/08/2012 8:55:34 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Hotlanta Mike; TheCipher; little jeremiah; bitt; STARWISE; onyx; edge919; Fantasywriter; ...

To let the NY AG know that perjury has been committed by Alice Travis Germond and Antonio Villagairosa and suborned by Bob Bauer, direct the NY AG to a copy of the letter received by Bob Bauer by courier at 2:30pm EDT on Aug 31.

The link to the letter portion of that communication is at http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/09/BauerLetter.pdf and the link to the documenting enclosures that were in that letter is at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/bennett-request-and-response.pdf

FARS, I just added you to my ping list. See the post that this is in response to for the rest of this. It’s been a bit hectic lately.


300 posted on 09/08/2012 9:08:11 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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