When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk!
Posted on 08/13/2012 9:58:08 PM PDT by blam
When They Come For Your Guns, You Will Turn Them Over
August 13, 2012
By Jim Karger
“When they come for my gun, they will have to pry it out of my cold, dead hands,” is a common refrain I often hear from the Neo-Cons when there is a threat, credible or otherwise, that the US government is going to take their firearms.
And, when I hear this crazy talk, I agree with them openly. “You are right. They will pry your gun from your cold dead hands,” which I often follow with the question, “And where will that leave you except face down in a pool of your own blood [in] the middle of the street, just another dead fool resisting the State?”
This is not a question they are comfortable with, if only because the intent of their saber-rattling was to imply they would fight to keep their weapons, and win.
Nice fantasy. It’s not happening.
If the federal government decides to disarm the public, and when the increasingly-militarized rolls down your street after a not-so-subtle request that you kindly turn over your firearms and ammunition “for the common good,” it will be nothing less than suicide by cop to do anything other than what you are told.
The militarization of US police forces is ongoing and escalating. Many cities and towns now own tanks, armed personnel carriers, even attack helicopters, and almost all are outfitted with military weapons not available to the general public.
And, it is not just your hometown cops who are getting new boy-toys. The military itself is buying up weaponry not just for use in the current or next scheduled war, but to deal with the likes of you, citizens who don’t seem to understand that the Bill of Rights has been overruled, and that specifically includes, but is not limited to, the right to protest and engage in civil disobedience.
Also ignored (as if it didn’t even exist) is the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 which generally bars the military from law enforcement activities within the United States.
According to Public Intelligence:
“…for the last two years, the President’s Budget Submissions for the Department of Defense have included purchases of a significant amount of combat equipment, including armored vehicles, helicopters and even artillery, under an obscure section of the FY2008 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for the purposes of ‘homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities.’ Items purchased under the section include combat vehicles, tanks, helicopters, artillery, mortar systems, missiles, small arms and communications equipment. Justifications for the budget items indicate that many of the purchases are part of routine resupply and maintenance, yet in each case the procurement is cited as being ‘necessary for use by the active and reserve components of the Armed Forces for homeland defense missions, domestic emergency responses, and providing military support to civil authorities’ under section 1815 of the FY 2008 NDAA.”
And, they are not just arming cops and weekend warriors for domestic purposes. Active duty Marines are now being trained for law enforcement operations all over the world (of which the US remains a part) specifically to deal with civil uprisings, and the US government knows that civil uprisings are coming to a town near you just as soon as the fantasy of a healing economy is shattered, the US dollar fails, and unemployment goes to 30%+ in real numbers.
And, to you tough-talking Neo-Cons with your AR-15 rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammo, here is the reality: they will take your guns, and no, all your Second Amendment bluster aside, you are not going to do anything about it. You are not going to take on a platoon of Marines with state-of-the-art automatic weapons and the best body armor you cannot buy protected by armed personnel carriers and attack helicopters unless you choose to die that day — for nothing. You will either be in the country or out, and if you are in, you will stay in and you will comply.
That is your choice… for the moment.
It’s just amazing what root level access and few simple commands can achieve.
Yep. We built it. Therefore, we know where the backdoor and spare key are.
Ain’t no such thang as “secure.”
Yep. We built it. Therefore, we know where the backdoor and spare key are.
Ain’t no such thang as “secure.”
“...the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality...”
Kind of puts the fine point on it, doesn’t it...
Magical thinking is pretty commonplace. Still doesn’t work, though. Consequences are inevitable, and often unintended.
In my opinion the most commonly misquoted Scripture is “Money is the root of all evil”, and running a close second is my tagline.
That’s kind of old and overused. Try something original.
There is some evidence that the “Special Units” trailed the Wehrmacht into Poland and the Baltic countries suffered a crisis in morale after a period. Seems like there’s a limit to the atrocities that men who view themselves as soldiers will put up with. Even if the subjects of those atrocities are considered ‘enemies’ and ‘sub-human’.
In many cases the deer rifle will be your more effective weapon (relative to an AR-15). Range, accuracy and even the terminal-effects on the 'target' would all be superior. The drawback is, of course, rate-of-fire and maintaining a target picture.
BTW, when I mentioned effect on target I am assuming that we're dealing with troops clad in body armor & kevlar.
“..some evidence that the “Special Units” trailed the Wehrmacht into Poland...”
The SS Einsatzgruppen were killers, pure and simple. Extermination squads sent to denude the area of the Slavic Untermenschen (subhumans).
Whatever crisis of morale they may or may not have had, it didn’t stop them from blowing peoples’ heads open, bayoneting children, gassing and burning people alive so they could create Lebensraum (living space) for future Teutonic settlement.
The Wermacht, were they true patriots for their nation and true soldiers, should have slaughtered the Einsatzgruppen, SS units, and Gestapo at very opportunity and taken their country back. They outnumbered them by a large majority. But they did nothing except the bidding of their National Socialist masters as well.
Nuremberg set a precedent - “just following orders” doesn’t spare you from the hangman’s noose, nor the firing squad. Wermacht officers and Landsers went to the gallows as well as the SS.
I do understand your point, but I think once the other side sets this insanity off, there’ll be no stopping it until one side or the other is left standing.
The same ideology that drove those Einsatzgruppen is alive and well in the modern left today. They can call it whatever euphemism they want, but it’s the same thing.
They mean to be masters, one way or the other.
When you have to shoot, shoot don't talk!
Agreed. Communication today has far more components than “they” could ever hope to control. They might hinder communication for a short while, but we’d find a way around it. We always do.
I’d say I was in the same ballpark.
Oh, and for the record, I don't own any weapons.
5.56mm
Exactly.
Precisely!
The only reason the left has gotten as far as it has is because they have managed to AVOID doing exactly that thing, though I think divorce and custody law has come dangerously close in some cases.
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