Posted on 07/27/2012 6:19:33 AM PDT by xzins
Is it possible that Mitt is an inexperienced and undisciplined candidate, or should we begin viewing his comments as trial balloons?
The latest possible trial balloon came this past Monday in an interview with Larry Kudlow. In that discussion, Romney relates the situation in Aurora, Colorado to his time in Massachusetts when he was able to ban weapons such as the AR15, one of America's favorite sporting rifles.
Romney...the law that we signed in Massachusetts was a combination of efforts both on the part of those that were for additional gun rights and those that opposed gun rights,...Where there are opportunities for people of reasonable minds to come together and find common ground, thats the kind of legislation I like. (http://www.nbcuniversal.presscentre.com/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=11599&NewsAreaId=2)
Romney has given us other trial balloons in recent months.
First, he consistently affirms RomneyCare, the massive government intrusion into healthcare that was the blueprint for Obama's massive government intrusion into healthcare. Sadly, Romney's health care plan included many items absolutely unacceptable to social conservatives. His continuing support for his program has many conservatives legitimately wondering if he intends merely to "fix" ObamaCare. Perhaps he thinks it would be better if just a little more in his own image.
Next, and only this past April, was Mitt Romney's support for gay couples. Compounding that problem was his assertion that gay couples should be allowed to adopt children. There are compounding problems with that, too. Mitt Romney has long had a special relationship with the gay-agenda wing of both parties. He has in the past given those advocates special assurances that he is the man they want in office. Just this past week, when Obama permitted military uniforms to be worn in a gay pride parade, there was no protest from Mitt Romney that this author can find. (Since pro-life chaplains can't march in pro-life parades in uniform, one wonders at the double standard.) To cap this off, during the debates, Romney indicated he was just fine with permitting open homosexuality in our military.
Now we have the governor who instituted strict gun control on "offensive weapons" reaffirming that decision. But that is not the critical part of the message.
Mitt Romney actually said on Monday -- this past Monday -- that when he can get legislators to agree on gun control, then "that's the kind of legislation I like."!
I can't help but dissect "that's the kind of legislation I like." What does that mean? Does it mean he's all in favor of signing gun control legislation if he can get legislators to originate it? That way, of course, he wouldn't be the only one taking the heat.
Does that mean that he doesn't really have a core value opposing gun control, that he'll sign on if he's not the only one with his neck on the line?
Trial Balloon or undisciplined comment?
You be the judge. But, you also better be careful, and make sure Romney never has a large enough group of RINOs to team with democrats to bring him gun control legislation.
After all, "That's the kind of legislation I like."
The secretary of state said that Assad was a reformer. That's a phrase which will obviously go down in history as being poorly timed and entirely inaccurate. This is a person who is killing his own people and was at the time...... But a person of this nature that's overseen the killing of his own people is obviously someone who's unfit to lead.
Kudlow and Romney thought they had turned to other issues. What they actually did was provide a tremendous, modern example of the primary reason the 2nd amendment was so important to the Founders.
We MUST be able to protect ourselves from a renegade government. There are too many examples of that in history to list here. That makes naive any statement that "that will never happen here."
Ping to a discussion of gun control
That is the unknown danger Romney represents.
Romney...this past Monday
That is right on target, db.
And there is always the problem of Romney's willingness to team with Democrats to get his own way.
I'm afraid he's also one of those misguided souls that thinks compromise is a virtue, even if it's just for the sake of compromise.
Those of you who think Romney will be an improvement over Obama...what do you have to say for yourselves?
No surprise here. He’s even more insidious than Obama.
Im not so sure the GOP would stand up to Barry’s gun banning efforts. Sure, theyd make a lot of noise but in the end do what they always do...COMPROMISE. Barry and ORomney are one in the same...no difference what so ever. Hey, but ORomney is our despot so they makes it all OK. The best measure is look at what theyve done NOT what they say.
> Where there are opportunities for people of reasonable
> minds to come together and find common ground, thats the
> kind of legislation I like
Sounds unprincipled to me.
Sounds like the Marxian dialectic to me.
“those that were for additional gun rights”
No, Sparky: not additional gun rights. What part of “shall not be infringed” is unclear to you?
We are so screwed.
If you must vote for Romney to kick the Marxist out of the White House, make darn sure you vote for every TEA Party Congressman you can find on your ballot. Conservatives know you can’t trust a MA politician to “do the right thing.’ There will have to be a very strong firewall built by conservatives to try to keep their Second Amendment RTBA.
The TEA Party websites in every state should give you endorsements to the candidates they support.
The best thing for the second amendment is to maintain the status quo. The Republican House can kill any gun control measures that come along but with a republican President that supports gun control and a democratic or even slightly republican senate, we may have trouble preventing a second AWB or worse from passing. The status quo has worked for us so far. If Mitt comes out and makes some strong statements regarding his support for gun owners, I may chabge my mind but as it stands now, there’s very little chance that I will vote for him.
Romney is said to be a bit of a mystery, but actually not.
Do you know the picture of the RomneyCare signing with him, Ted Kennedy and others, and Romney is laughing large?
That is him, and that’s what his comment above says: If he can get legislators to bring him legislation, so that he isn’t the only one with his head in a noose, then he will sign it.
That photo is exactly who Romney is.
My take on this (in bold) is Romney was speaking generally about legislation, any legislation which is passed with a bi partisan effort. I do not deny he had this particular law in mind as well since it is part of what I believe to be a statement of wider scope then just the gun control law.
:: Where there are opportunities for people of reasonable minds to come together and find common ground ::
Hegelistic thought, such as this, is the underlying philosophy of Communism.
So, do you support gun control if it’s bi-partisan gun control?
Or do you think that keeping and bearing arms is a right...a part of the God-given right to self-defense?
Heading towards the cliff at 45 vs 90 miles per hour gives me more time to stock up on ammo and implements of survival.
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