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Get rid of the right to bear arms (NYT article on revising the Constitution)
The New York Times ^ | 7/8/2012 | Melynda Price

Posted on 07/09/2012 5:30:24 AM PDT by darrellmaurina

I came of age when the word “drive-by” entered the American lexicon. By high school graduation, I lost one cousin to gun violence and another was incarcerated for a gun crime. I know many harmed by guns and even more who feared the possibility. I always wonder if, but for the Second Amendment, there would be a more radical commitment to compromise and peacefully working through easy and difficult issues. In writing the Second Amendment, the Framers didn't envision the kind of gun toting that is permitted across this country today.... I am not naïve enough to believe that doing away with the Second Amendment would do away with gun violence, but I know firsthand the impact of guns and gun shots on children. This nation was constructed and reconstructed in the aftermath of violent and bloody conflicts. Still, the Framers believed that not only the Constitution, but also the peaceful way the document was created, would penetrate the Americans' minds and change they engaged. The Constitution would be the only weapon needed unless there was an external enemy.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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It looks like the gun banners are finally coming out of the closet and being open about trying to amend rather than "reinterpret" the Second Amendment. This needs to get widespread and immediate attention in conservative circles so we can prove to moderates that the other side really **IS** trying to ban private gun ownership contrary to the Constitution.
1 posted on 07/09/2012 5:30:29 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

To arms! To arms!


2 posted on 07/09/2012 5:32:31 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: darrellmaurina

The progressives know the second amendment is the only thing standing between us and a leftist dictatorship. I’m not surprised to see them fighting tooth and nail to disarm us.


3 posted on 07/09/2012 5:32:36 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: darrellmaurina

How about we ban the NY Times instead.


4 posted on 07/09/2012 5:32:53 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx

Jim and Onyx, I think this New York Times article needs more attention on Free Republic than a post by me would ordinarily get for it. If warranted, perhaps there are keywords or ping lists which would help in getting attention to this article.

Your call, obviously...


5 posted on 07/09/2012 5:34:44 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina
By high school graduation, I lost one cousin to gun violence and another was incarcerated for a gun crime.

Well, Ms. Price, where do you live, in metro NYC where guns are all but illegal and only criminals have guns?

6 posted on 07/09/2012 5:37:10 AM PDT by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: darrellmaurina

Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.


7 posted on 07/09/2012 5:37:59 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: darrellmaurina

under the radar got caught


8 posted on 07/09/2012 5:38:43 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: darrellmaurina

“I came of age when the word “drive-by” entered the American lexicon.”

That’s only because he and his ilk removed the term “Return Fire” from the American lexicon.


9 posted on 07/09/2012 5:39:20 AM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: darrellmaurina
> . In writing the Second Amendment, the Framers didn't envision the kind of gun toting that is permitted across this country today.

Imbecile. She's only right in the sense that the Framers didn't envision what pusillanimous weaklings their descendents would become. The Framers lived in a time when a gentleman was not properly dressed for going out if he was not carrying a weapon, and irreconcilable differences between men were settled by the rules of code duello. Read about the death of Alexander Hamilton, for God's sake!

10 posted on 07/09/2012 5:40:01 AM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (OVERTHROW OBAMA!)
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To: darrellmaurina

I dont know of one person personally who has been shot or got aids. Maybe Dems should tell their supporters to control themselves rather than to expect big daddy gov to take care of them.


11 posted on 07/09/2012 5:40:01 AM PDT by sickoflibs (ABBBO chant: "We must support Romney because he doesn't matter." (Obam-ney Care is bad now ))
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To: CPOSharky
The first two cities to put in Rent Control were New York City and San Francisco.

The two highest cities with the most expensive rents in America

12 posted on 07/09/2012 5:40:38 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: darrellmaurina; marktwain; Joe Brower; MestaMachine; Nachum; Lurker; CodeToad; Squantos; Eaker; ...
How "elite" Manhattan Libtards see firearms ownership:


13 posted on 07/09/2012 5:40:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: darrellmaurina

Were it not for the unconstitutional activities done by the federal government right now I would dismiss these rantings for the horse manure that it is. We really do need to start educating children and adults on the principles on which our country was founded.


14 posted on 07/09/2012 5:41:02 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: darrellmaurina

There is so much wrong in just that one paragraph that I don’t know what to say....

:(

“the Framers believed that not only the Constitution, but also the peaceful way the document was created”

History was definitely NOT her forte...


15 posted on 07/09/2012 5:41:06 AM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: umgud

I’ve lost family members to the incideous LIB philosopy. I believe we should ban LIB ideas.


16 posted on 07/09/2012 5:41:35 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: darrellmaurina
By high school graduation, I lost one cousin to gun violence and another was incarcerated for a gun crime.

I'd be stunned if in both cases the guns involved weren't already illegal and were used by perps who had previous records of violent crime that should have kept them off the streets to begin with.

17 posted on 07/09/2012 5:42:47 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: darrellmaurina
I posted the below on another gun thread (Soris & the UN Arms Treaty) that was then hijacked by Romney/Anti-Romney posters - but I think that our 2nd Amendment rights are so threaten by the UN Arms Treaty and the left's propaganda campaign to falsely assert otherwise that I'm re-posting it here.
Claiming that the UN Arms Treaty is anything else but an assault on US gun rights is the boldest leftwing lie since "peaceful coexistence" and here's why.

First, a link to the text of the treaty: "The Arms Trade Treaty (A/RES/64/48)"

Excerpted below is the section of this Treaty that calls on States{nations} for an implementation:

"Calls upon all States to implement, on a national basis, the relevant recommendations contained in section VII of the report of the Group of Governmental Experts (See A/63/334)."
Next is a link to the text of the referenced report: "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts to examine the feasibility, scope and draft parameters for a comprehensive, legally binding instrument establishing common international standards for the import, export and transfer of conventional arms (A/63/334)"

Excerpted below is the only one of three section (27-29) in above referenced "section VII" ("Conclusions and recommendations") dictating the responsibilities and required actions of signatory States:

29. The Group acknowledged the respective responsibilities of exporters and importers. In order to begin improving the current situation, the Group recognized the need for all States to ensure that their national systems and internal controls are at the highest possible standards, and that States in a position to do so could render assistance in this regard, upon request. {Emphasises added.}
How can America agreeing to implement UN requested "internal controls" of our "nation system" of gun regulations not be surrendering American 2nd Amendment rights?

Once signing such a treaty, what should Americans expect if the UN should "request" a tighter "standard" of US "internal controls" on guns and America's elected government officials refuses to comply?

All out LAWFARE, financed by the same leftist front groups (Soros' included) to force compliance through US courts! Note the "supremacy clause" of the Constitution which provides that the “Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.” {Emphasis added}

18 posted on 07/09/2012 5:44:09 AM PDT by drpix
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To: darrellmaurina
Still, the Framers believed that not only the Constitution, but also the peaceful way the document was created, would penetrate the Americans' minds and change they engaged. The Constitution would be the only weapon needed unless there was an external enemy.

The framers absolutely did not believe any such thing.

They believed that citizens should be armed to protect themselves from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
And they were especially concerned with an overreaching government so they specifically limited the powers of the government.

19 posted on 07/09/2012 5:44:58 AM PDT by oldbrowser (Your character is your fate.....fortune cookie)
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To: darrellmaurina
Perhaps someone might send a polite email to her blog, appropriately named "Thoughts of an Ivory Tower Interloper."

Melynda Price is an associate professor at the University of Kentucky College of Law.

20 posted on 07/09/2012 5:45:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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