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George Zimmerman released from jail
baynews9.com ^ | July 6, 2012 | Dave D'Marko and Jerry Hume

Posted on 07/06/2012 11:56:56 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

SANFORD -- George Zimmerman walked out of jail once again Friday.

Judge Kenneth Lester set Zimmerman’s bond at $1 million Thursday, and Zimmerman was able to post it.

Zimmerman had to go through a bail bondsman, and pay 10 percent of the bond amount, which is $100,000.

O’Mara said the online legal defense fund set up for Zimmerman currently has $211,000.

However, in order for Zimmerman to be released, he has to have $1 million in collateral, which O’Mara said the Zimmerman family does not have.

"We paid $15,000 initially for the first bail fee, so an additional fee of $85,000 would have to be paid to post this new bond, assuming we can work out the collateral issue," O'Mara said.

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To: Hodar
...but made the conscious decision to deceive the courts about the financial assets he had access to.

This statement is not supported by facts in evidence. Recant, or let your lie stand and be known for a lie.

81 posted on 07/06/2012 2:54:49 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Hodar

“Zimmerman was an idiot - he lied under oath about his financial situation.”

Then why hasn’t he been charged with perjury, instead of his wife?


82 posted on 07/06/2012 3:01:29 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman; Hodar
“Zimmerman was an idiot - he lied under oath about his financial situation.”

Then why hasn’t he been charged with perjury, instead of his wife?


Neither GZ nor his wife lied about their financial situation. Read the transcript. The actual transcript, not the one altered by the prosecution. The ball was passed directly to the judge who didn't follow up. He was offered someone and that person's phone number who could definitively give him all the information he could want about the financial situation. He didn't follow up. That's not GZ's fault.
83 posted on 07/06/2012 3:08:47 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Hodar

bump to post 25


84 posted on 07/06/2012 3:32:12 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Nice try. Your argument about omissions requiring submissions is nonsensical. An omission is simply having the knowledge of a material fact and failing to mention it.

George knew he wasn’t a pauper. The recorded conversations indicate he was directly involved in the transfer of significant amounts of money (which, by the way, were transferred in a manner calculated to avoid federal reporting laws). He knew there were assets that hadn’t been accurately reported to the court (his counsel even acknowledged that in the most recent bail hearing) and he failed to disclose them. Failure to disclose a material fact of which you’re aware is an omission.

If you’ll read the court’s opinion regarding the new bail amount, you’ll discover that the judge found probable cause for a violation of the code section I cited. Based on the evidence, and George’s admissions, I’d have to conclude the judge got that part right.


85 posted on 07/06/2012 4:20:04 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Echo4C
In court, Shelly Zimmerman testified that she didn’t know exactly how much was in the account, as the account was controlled by Zimmerman’s brother. She offered, in court, to get the brother on the phone.

She was asked if the brother was in a location where he could give sworn deposition. No, but he has an honest voice.

Effectively saying FU to the court is not a good idea,

86 posted on 07/06/2012 4:46:41 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Oztrich Boy
She was asked if the brother was in a location where he could give sworn deposition. No, but he has an honest voice.

And what exactly is that supposed to mean??? That clearly was not said.

87 posted on 07/06/2012 4:53:49 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This judge is fixing the case in favor of Sharpton and all the Black Racists

Judge Lester has a major conflict on interest. His wife, Dorothy Sedgwick, was the prosecutor in Zimmerman’s alleged assault with his ex. Sedwick is an Asst State Atty in Orange County (Orlando)

Lester knew he had a conflict of interest, and took the case anyway....this is criminal judicial misconduct. Two previous judges recused themselves because of lesser conflicts of interest

This judge doesn’t realize that he can be easily overturned if there is a conviction of GZ? This would be an appelate lawyer’s dream case


88 posted on 07/06/2012 4:54:29 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Sad....George Zimmerman is in jail for rightfully defending himself...while Eric Holder walks free)
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To: Uncle Chip

Google is your friend.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=zimmerman+bail+revoked&oq=Zimmerman+bail&gs_l=hp.3.1.0l4.0.0.1.113.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.aRtB4PyDgO8&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5a9ec88fe0d08128&biw=1680&bih=912

Pick your story ... unless everyone in the world who tells a story you don’t like is automatically a liar.


89 posted on 07/06/2012 4:56:19 PM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: fortheDeclaration
The judged jumped on this to make them look Bad, Pure, and Simple. aka George, Shellie, and Trayvon.

Match the lists to your personal preference.

90 posted on 07/06/2012 4:58:46 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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To: Uncle Chip
Of course it wasn't actually said. "Literalists!"

A voice on the phone is not sworn testimony.

91 posted on 07/06/2012 5:05:50 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Literals will believe anything.)
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To: Hodar

Congrats on completely dodging the issue. You claimed that George Zimmerman deceived the court. We want evidence of it, not Google.

Try again.


92 posted on 07/06/2012 5:28:16 PM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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To: Oztrich Boy

The point is that at any time the persecutors could have called in George’s brother to testify. But they didn’t. Why not?


93 posted on 07/06/2012 5:29:53 PM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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To: ArmstedFragg
Your argument about omissions requiring submissions is nonsensical.

No it is not. No one is under any obligation to testify at his bond hearing. But if he does testify he can't omit anything.

An omission is simply having the knowledge of a material fact and failing to mention it.

And if he doesn't take the witness stand, how it that supposed to happen. No defendant is obligated to take the witness stand for any reason.

George knew he wasn’t a pauper.

Really??? No job, no house, under medical care, facing a year of legal bills, having to depend upon the contributions of others in order to pay his bills, having to borrow from his mother, having to rely on his parents and grandmother to put their houses up for collateral. You're right -- he was Bill Gates in disguise.

The recorded conversations indicate he was directly involved in the transfer of significant amounts of money

All of which has now gone to the bailbondsman contrary to the wishes of those who gave the money.

(which, by the way, were transferred in a manner calculated to avoid federal reporting laws)

No -- it was done per Paypal rules. Didn't you hear the expert testimony???

He knew there were assets that hadn’t been accurately reported to the court

Nobody in that courtroom knew how to handle the Paypal money. Lester and MoM had a conversation regarding that account and Lester said that how that money is handled may be out of his jurisdiction. Go back and read the April 20th hearing minutes.

(his counsel even acknowledged that in the most recent bail hearing)

MoM would have GZ apologize for breathing the air in Lester's courtroom if it would make Lester happy.

and he failed to disclose them.

He never was questioned about finances or money or Paypal at the hearing. There is no omisssion without there being first a submission.

Failure to disclose a material fact of which you’re aware is an omission.

Only if you are questioned about money under oath in a bailbond hearing in Florida and you are the defendant. SZ was not the defendant. And GZ was not questioned about finances.

If you’ll read the court’s opinion regarding the new bail amount, you’ll discover that the judge found probable cause for a violation of the code section I cited.

You'll notice how carefully he parsed his words: presented false testimony. The false testimony he is referring to is SZ's testimony, because GZ never testified. He's saying that GZ presented her testimony. But he forgets that it was MoM who called SZ to testify. So he should be mad at MoM not GZ.

Based on the evidence, and George’s admissions

GZ has testified to nothing under oath about bail and admitted to nothing under oath. And remember Lester says that MoM can't speak for GZ -- he must speak for himself.

I’d have to conclude the judge got that part right.

He got it right if you ignore the fact that MoM called SZ to the witness stand, not GZ, and SZ offed her brother in law for answers to specific balance amounts, and they ignored her offer, and she has only been charged with perjury which will never stick especially when they subpoenae Lester and BDLR for their depositions, which will be followed by the dropping of all charges.

94 posted on 07/06/2012 5:35:15 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Hodar

Don’t try to prefabricate your way out of this. Those articles say nothing. Post the questions asked and the answers given under oath at that hearing and the link to them. It can’t be that hard for someone as enlightened as you. Please enlighten us, oh wise one.


95 posted on 07/06/2012 5:42:08 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Widows Son

George is not going to be acquited.


96 posted on 07/06/2012 5:45:33 PM PDT by sport
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To: Oztrich Boy
A voice on the phone is not sworn testimony.

SZ gave her testimony by phone. She was sworn in by a notary who did so at her house and the questioning and answering was all done by phone.

97 posted on 07/06/2012 5:45:57 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; Widows Son
It’s disgusting that this case has received the publicity it has. How many brutal murders have taken place in this country since this incident that have never been reported?

. . . When George is aquitted, he needs to go after every one of these self serving race baiters and political bottom feeders and sue them for every dime he can. 4 posted on July 6, 2012 3:02:55 PM EDT by Widows Son

Why wait ’til he’s acquitted? He should be suing the journalism establishment right now- he’s been libeled, big time. And that fact does not even depend on his innocence on the murder charge. So why wait?
This is more an attack on the 2nd amendment and the right of self defense as on George Zimmerman, George just got picked as the sacrificial lamb.
Actually, he “won”
The Lottery
Shirley Jackson
He was just a convenient scapegoat. His case is simply entertainment. As Widows Son said - this killing was just one of hundreds which receive next to no notice. But in this one the trigger was pulled by someone who wasn’t black.

It gives journalism the chance to pretend that they are on the side of the underdog, even if the “underdog” is such because he “looks like the son the POTUS never had."


98 posted on 07/06/2012 6:49:50 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Uncle Chip

You appear to be confusing the elements of perjury with the elements of the crime of omitting material information in a bail application. You’ll find that crime at 903.035 in the Florida statutes. All I can suggest is that you read the plain text of the law. If you don’t find that acceptable, I don’t know what more I can tell you. If you have a case that invalidates that statute, I’d appreciate a citation.

The requirement to disclose all material facts begins when you apply for bail and continues until it’s granted. Whether you give testimony or not has nothing to do with it. Note also that subsection (3) applies to “any person” without distinction to whether that person is defendant or a witness. There is no requirement that the false information come from testimony by the defendant or be provided under oath.


99 posted on 07/06/2012 7:12:31 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Hodar
Where a $50,000 bail for you and I may be incentive to return to face charges; this is a laughable security for a multi-millionaire. Thus, Bail is money held as a "security deposit" to return and stand trial at a later date. It is returned to the accused when they present themselves to stand trial - so it's not "punitive".

When you have to pay a bondsman to post bail, you pay 10% down and no, you never get it back. Been there. Done that.


George Zimmerman (no prior arrest, full cooperation with the police, no flight risk, all forensic evidence supports his report of self defense) and his wife had quit jobs and leave their home for safety after Sharpton and other race pimps raised the rabble - they are paupers except for that defense fund of $211,000 (now minus $100K for bond) over which they have no direct control, plus they probably have accumulated over a hundred K in legal costs and mounting so a million dollar bail IS laughable as anything other than a personal punitive slap by this judge.

You're welcome..
100 posted on 07/06/2012 7:20:16 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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