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Hey Romney Supporters - 51 Votes in the Senate Overturns Obamacare If It's a Tax
me ^ | 7/3/2012 | vbmoneyspender

Posted on 07/03/2012 10:45:21 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender

Romney's spokesman has said that Obamacare does not impose a tax. But if that's true then it will take 60 votes to get past a Democratic filibuster in the Senate.

On the other hand, if Obamacare does impose a tax, then it will only take 51 votes to overturn Obamacare in the Senate.

This is not some obscure fact. So why on God's green earth would Romney's spokesman being seeking to characterize Obamacare as not imposing a tax? Are they trying to make it harder to overturn Obamacare?

I'd love to get straightforward answers to those questions from Romney supporters.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; dailykosishere; deathpanels; obamacare; occupymitt; romney; vanity; zerocare
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1 posted on 07/03/2012 10:45:30 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

It is a tax. The SCOTUS said so


2 posted on 07/03/2012 10:46:30 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

You know, I would value Herman Cain’s viewpoint on this, and foreward strategy, much more than I would for ANY Mitt Romney advisor, no matter how seasoned or qualified.


3 posted on 07/03/2012 10:49:07 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Rebel Colonists, tax-harassed by a government out of control, fed up,set up their OWN "death panels")
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To: vbmoneyspender

If OmebaCare is not a tax...then it is unConstitutional and Congress should immediately cut all funding and repeal the law.

Do you think Boehner and McConnell will do this?

Romney?


4 posted on 07/03/2012 10:49:24 PM PDT by Amadeo
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To: tsowellfan

You know, I would value Herman Cain’s viewpoint on this, and foreward strategy, much more than I would for ANY Mitt Romney advisor, no matter how seasoned or qualified.


5 posted on 07/03/2012 10:49:46 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Rebel Colonists, tax-harassed by a government out of control, fed up,set up their OWN "death panels")
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To: vbmoneyspender
So why on God's green earth would Romney's spokesman being seeking to characterize Obamacare as not imposing a tax? Are they trying to make it harder to overturn Obamacare?

Very good questions that need answers. I am not a Romney supporter but I will likely vote for him if it's a choice between him and Obama. Obama's way too radical. I do wish we had a better choice. Unfortunately the conservative circular firing squad resulted in the wrong man left standing.

6 posted on 07/03/2012 10:49:46 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: vbmoneyspender
On the other hand, if Obamacare does impose a tax, then it will only take 51 votes to overturn Obamacare in the Senate.

Whatever is in it, 51 should be adequate for repeal because they went with a procedure that allowed them to pass it with 51. You can't very well say 51 is adequate for passage but repeal takes 60.

7 posted on 07/03/2012 10:50:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking
You can't very well say 51 is adequate for passage but repeal takes 60.

Oh yeah, watch the Democrats and their propaganda arm in the media do exactly that.

8 posted on 07/03/2012 10:52:58 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Amadeo
If OmebaCare is not a tax...then it is unConstitutional

We've already crossed that bridge. According to the highest court in the land ObamaCare IS a tax and is Constitutional. We may disagree with that finding but it is what it is.

We need to do away with ObamaCare based on that premise otherwise we accomplish nothing.

9 posted on 07/03/2012 10:53:56 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Technically, the 51 really only needs to be 50 + VP.


10 posted on 07/03/2012 10:55:21 PM PDT by Suz in AZ
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To: vbmoneyspender
So why on God's green earth would Romney's spokesman being seeking to characterize Obamacare as not imposing a tax?

Perhaps Romney does not want to help conservatives gain control of the Senate. He may feel too pressured as President with a bunch of conservatives in control. If he calls it a tax then that would encourage conservatives to fight hard for a majority big enough to repeal ObamaCare.

11 posted on 07/03/2012 10:57:01 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Suz in AZ
Technically, the 51 really only needs to be 50 + VP.

50 + VP = 51 votes

Votes to Break Ties in the Senate

12 posted on 07/03/2012 10:59:00 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

Donor assume the spokesman is speaking correctly ...or with authority. If Romney says it himself, there’s a problem. Anything the spokesman says can, and in this case will, be walked back.


13 posted on 07/03/2012 11:00:54 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

Don’t not Donor...damn iPad and it’s keyboard.


14 posted on 07/03/2012 11:04:25 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Amadeo

Do you think Boehner and McConnell will do this?


neither of these two idiots belong in leadership let alone office.

McConnell has already said “well... we’ll try.. but it’s not easy to over turn passed laws”

WTF! He just laid down and gave up. There is no fight in either of these two idiots.

Both of them should be tared and feathered.


15 posted on 07/03/2012 11:09:29 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my countries government.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
I'd love to get straightforward answers to those questions from Romney supporters.

The straightforward answer is that you are almost certainly a whining, lying little tool who wants Obama to win the election.

16 posted on 07/03/2012 11:11:35 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Put away the schnapps and get working on your beauty sleep.


17 posted on 07/03/2012 11:15:46 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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18 posted on 07/03/2012 11:17:39 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

Mittens said if it’s a tax it’s constitutional.

If it’s a penalty it’s unconstitutional.

Stop eating the government run Pablum.


19 posted on 07/03/2012 11:17:53 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Mitt said he agrees with the dissent.

All the rest is gorilla dust.


20 posted on 07/03/2012 11:20:36 PM PDT by rogue yam
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