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"The Chief Justice Done Good"
American Thinker ^ | June 29, 2012 | Dov Fischer

Posted on 07/02/2012 5:06:03 PM PDT by lyby

Chief Justice John Roberts has handed a remarkable victory to American conservatives by threading the judicial needle with perfect precision. The initial disappointment collectively felt by Americans who had hoped for a Supreme Court ruling that would overturn Obamacare soon will be replaced, upon further reflection, by the excitement that will come with a fuller appreciation of what the Chief Justice has wrought.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/the_chief_justice_done_good.html#ixzz1zVtA34HQ

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: johnroberts; moreeggsucking; obamacare; supremecourt; tax
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To: formosa

Most Americans think more in terms of benefits: what does the law give me and mine. It will be years before they have to pay for them.


41 posted on 07/02/2012 5:51:18 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Truth spoken here.


42 posted on 07/02/2012 5:52:46 PM PDT by mcshot (God bless the USA! OMG PLEASE vote ABO or OWW and our Country dies.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Roberts words are dicta.

For non-lawyers let me explain:

Dicta is an expression in a court's opinion that goes beyond the facts before the court and therefore are individual views of the author of the opinion and not binding in subsequent cases as legal precedent.

Anyone who claims that Roberts will restrain the use of the commerce clause is unaware of the legal meaning of dicta or they are flat out lying.

43 posted on 07/02/2012 5:54:00 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Even if the law is overturned the ruling still stands. The ruling opens the taxation floodgates.


44 posted on 07/02/2012 5:54:12 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

If Roberts really has hamstrung the governments power under the Commerce Clause, why did he have to uphold Obamacare under taxation?

Why could he not have sided with the Kennedy and the conservatives, struck down Obamacare, and STILL issued his opinion on the Commerce Clause?


45 posted on 07/02/2012 5:55:37 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: RobbyS

I suppose we must be speaking of different segments of the population. My responses are based on the people I see and speak with daily. Sometimes that leaves me out of touch with those who make demands on my pocketbook.


46 posted on 07/02/2012 5:55:56 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Not that it makes this dagger plunged in my back and sticking out through the front of my heart any less painful, of course.

I hear you and totally agree.

Here's the thread with many comments if you're interested.

47 posted on 07/02/2012 5:57:18 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: elkfersupper

My Grandma had a saying that fits too....wish in one hand and _hit in the other and see which one fills up first.


48 posted on 07/02/2012 5:58:15 PM PDT by sheana
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To: lyby
Wait until Obama decides that all citizens must spend two weeks performing mandatory national service by picking crops in the plantation fields, or pay a tax under penalty of prison.

-PJ

49 posted on 07/02/2012 5:58:28 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: lyby

I did scan it and it is more of the same crap.

I’ve spent enough years in the pasture to know what Bull Spit is without reading some highbrow bowl of verbal diarrhea from some spinmaster looking for ways to put a happy face on a dire situation. Crap.

Is the Rabbi Dov Fischer? He has a lot of time to write doesn’t he? What else does he do?

I think we have enough sense to sort Spit from Shinola.

Roberts screwed us all. No ifs, ands or buts.


50 posted on 07/02/2012 6:00:07 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Obama would never require all citizens to do that.

Just white citizens with a job.

51 posted on 07/02/2012 6:00:37 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: DManA

Roberts is pissing on us, and a Loyola professor is trying to tell us its raining and its really benefical because its watering the plants.


52 posted on 07/02/2012 6:02:01 PM PDT by Brownie63
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Too bad for your theory that Roberts did nothing to limit the commerce clause.


53 posted on 07/02/2012 6:03:28 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: tumblindice

Thank you for holding on to you humility.

The arrogance of this Dov Fischer guy makes me retch.

We got boned and it was not necessary.

Robert’s did the equivalent of leaving us adrift in a lifeboat to teach us a lesson if he had some grand scheme. More likely, I think he was bought, bribed or threatened.


54 posted on 07/02/2012 6:04:17 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (You've been screwed by your government.)
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To: Breto

“If you really want to understand this matter dial into Mark (Levin)or hit his web.”

Thanks, Breto! That’s the whole point of my reading commentaries and the posts on FR: “to understand”. I will check out Mark Levin.


55 posted on 07/02/2012 6:05:07 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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To: lyby

I read it all.

Some Conservatives are making grasping at straws an art form.


56 posted on 07/02/2012 6:06:04 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: jazusamo

I AM very interested in people’s response to this brilliant assessment. Thank you for the link.


57 posted on 07/02/2012 6:07:45 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: lyby
BOVINE EXCREMENT!!!

While I don't always agree with Charles Krauthammer, I thoroughly enjoyed him DESTROYING and B-Slapping, he who "looks out for us," EXCEPT when it comes to bending over defending Dear Leader, his Administration or ANYTHING Demo-Rat...all in the name of "Fair and Balanced,"...the Bloviator in Chief, O'Reilly, tonight.

O'Reilly, as usual, made an effort to suggest that Roberts did the right thing by throwing this back to the people.

Charles (RIGHTLY) replied that if that was the case, Roberts should resign and there would be no more need for a Supreme Court.

58 posted on 07/02/2012 6:07:45 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet
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To: CharacterCounts

o·bi·ter dictum (b-tr)
n. pl. obiter dicta
1. Law An opinion voiced by a judge that has only incidental bearing on the case in question and is therefore not binding. Also called dictum.
2. An incidental remark or observation; a passing comment.

In a few years—when half or more of our income is going to the federal government—he can say that he was misunderstood about his observations on the commerce clause. And then they take what’s left.


59 posted on 07/02/2012 6:12:29 PM PDT by tumblindice (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“Don’t you have a clue why this ruling is so dangerous?”

Thank you for your comments! I read FB and occasionally post articles because I am trying to UNDERSTAND!! I am truly grateful for FB and the many different viewpoints that contribute to my becoming informed regarding the politics of our GREAT United States of America!


60 posted on 07/02/2012 6:15:59 PM PDT by lyby ("Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe." ~ Galileo Galilei)
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