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Conservative Anger Growing Over Obamacare Decision
The Examiner ^ | June 30, 2012 | Byron York

Posted on 07/01/2012 8:48:06 AM PDT by centurion316

I ran into a prominent conservative member of Congress Friday night just before the huge storms moved through Washington. He was, he said, far angrier on the day after the Supreme Court Obamacare decision than he had been the moment he learned Chief Justice John Roberts had joined the Court’s liberal bloc to uphold the individual mandate at the heart of Obamacare. He didn’t resort to histrionics or profanity, but he was spitting mad — and his anger was growing, not diminishing.

A short time later, I saw another conservative lawmaker who said much the same thing. And yet another conservative leader who was in the same frame of mind.

At the same time, a backlash was forming in response to analyses by some formidable conservative writers — George Will, Charles Krauthammer, and others — who argued the Obamacare decision was actually a victory for conservatives because it placed a limit on expansive interpretations of the Constitution’s Commerce Clause. In the Wall Street Journal, Berkeley law professor and former Bush Justice Department official John Yoo called such silver-lining analyses “hollow hope” and wrote that Obamacare is precisely the disaster for conservatives it appears to be

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byronyork; conservatism; obamacare; obamacaredecision; scotus
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To: Latecomer

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Roberts, and the rest of the liberals on the court, are wrong.

Thomas, Scalia and the others are correct.

For the first time in the history of our nation the Supreme Court has ruled a penalty a tax.

If you are going to post on this subject don’t you think you should, at the least, read a synopsys of the opinion and the dissent?


21 posted on 07/01/2012 9:30:40 AM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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To: Latecomer
Roberts is right because that taxing authority is Constitutional.

Is it? The Constitution grants Congress only four areas in which taxes can be levied: excise, impost, direct and income. Nowhere does it allow taxation for a negative action. This tax is nothing less than a tax on liberty.

22 posted on 07/01/2012 9:31:59 AM PDT by giotto
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To: giotto

Should the law stand, I expect that argument to be made in the courts, but they can’t make it yet until they actually start collecting the tax. I suspect this is why Ginsburg was so upset. Roberts might have screwed them royally.


23 posted on 07/01/2012 9:35:13 AM PDT by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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To: MileHi

Big deal. Roberts just opened a passage around the enumerated powers (our safeguard against tyranny) that is far bigger and wider than even the commerce clause.


24 posted on 07/01/2012 9:36:37 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: centurion316
None of the anger will be of use to any conservative unless we can take BOTH houses with CONSERVATIVE VETO PROOF MAJORITIES! And that is not going to happen, to many RINOS Snowe, Collins, Graham for examples. Then you have the fence straddlers who want to get along and be liked...McCain, Alexander, Corker, and many others. I put my 2 TN senators in the batch because I know what they are fence straddlers, both out to enrich their coffers while bleeding yours dry with ever increasing taxes and power to control you.


25 posted on 07/01/2012 9:37:39 AM PDT by GailA (IF U don't/won't keep your promises to the Military, U won't keep them to the public)
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To: centurion316

It would be awesome if there was a well-established online conservative news discussion and grassroots activism forum where people could get together to harness this conservative anger and channel it into support for those candidates up and down the ballot who have publicly committed to repealing Obamacare.

Anybody know of one of those?


26 posted on 07/01/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: centurion316
All of this anger will be of no use unless it translates into votes to deny Mr. Obama a second term, and to secure both Houses of Congress under Republican Control. It must be done in such a convincing way that Republican politicians will not dare to defy the will of Conservatives

Does it really matter any more? The SCOTUS tore up the social contract between government and the citizenry.

Go ahead. Elect 100% Tea Party activists into every position. Doesn't change the facts of the SCOTUS ruling.

27 posted on 07/01/2012 9:39:26 AM PDT by Lazamataz (People who resort to Godwin's Law are just like Hitler.)
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To: centurion316

Since Obama took office, the left has won every single important political battle - even after the 2010 elections.

If I were a lib, I’d be laughing, smiling and flipping everyone the bird too. No one has stopped them.

Everyone thinks Obama is going to lose? Everyone thought Obamacare would be struck down too.


28 posted on 07/01/2012 9:40:09 AM PDT by Tzimisce (THIS SUCKS)
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To: SoFloFreeper
The last best hope is to win in November, take the Senate decisively (because I believe there will be RINO defections like Murkowski) and repeal Obamacare on Day 1.

This plan would hinge on a Romney victory.

Free Republic is opposed to that.

29 posted on 07/01/2012 9:42:17 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Latecomer

“Roberts is right”

Roberts is scum who WROTE law from the bench. He is wrong legally and otherwise.


30 posted on 07/01/2012 9:43:12 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: kingu
Congress can now do the job it promised in 2010 - repeal ObamaCare.

Congress
didn't promise you anything of the sort.

The House reps did but the dems lock on the Senate stops damn near everything

We need the Senate in 12

31 posted on 07/01/2012 9:50:28 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: kingu
The House of Reps HAS repealed Obama Care, on several instances. If The Republicans take the Senate, they can repeal this new ‘tax’ through reconciliation on a straight 51/49 vote with approval of a President Romney.

The key is, IF they get the power, they have to repeal it, or the base will run and they will loose worse than 2006/08. They know it. A quick repeal and a sensible replacement, with STRONG TORT REFORM, will win them 20 years of dominance in DC

It is all about power, the Republicans want it back, if they get It back they damn well want to keep it. The only way to do that is to deliver.

32 posted on 07/01/2012 9:50:39 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
He redefined what remained of the Republic into a democracy.
33 posted on 07/01/2012 9:51:20 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
I am angry.

The people I talk to are angry (in my circle of friends & family).

My mother's doctor almost had a stroke on Thursday when I took her for an appointment, I mean he was red faced and over the top livid.

That being said, all I see are the Liberals spiking the football, pointing to polls proclaiming the November election is over before it began.

Now I know most of those polls are skewered. I know allot of Americans are pissed over this. But outside of my small circle, I am not seeing the rage, not seeing the anger. I do not think I am alone.

For over a month Obama had one peice of bad news after another, it was crushing him and last weeks Supreme Court decision seems to be like a helium tank shoved up arse. I would "feel" better if there were another series of Tea Party rallies coast to coast. Something to show other like minded people we are not alone in this fight.

34 posted on 07/01/2012 9:56:24 AM PDT by TheShaz
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To: Latecomer
I am sorry, but Roberts is and was wrong. He twisted like a pretzel in order to Fluke you and every other American. He was wrong in this case and the Arizona case. He is a blatant Statist and should be Impeached along with Kagan for not recusing herself.

Don't make excuses for the twit Roberts. He is an enemy of the people and of all who love freedom.

35 posted on 07/01/2012 9:56:27 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Your foolish post hurts all opponents of Obamacare, and damages FR.


36 posted on 07/01/2012 10:05:21 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: centurion316
Choose a battle that can be won, and then use the win to secure victory.

That battle will be to elect Mitt Romney, even if he wasn't your first choice, to the Presidency, and any Republican who commits to REPEAL Obamacare, to the House and Senate.

37 posted on 07/01/2012 10:06:22 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Windcatcher
The only people Roberts screwed where his Conservative colleagues on the Court and the American people! Wake up! This is a disaster of epic proportions. This ruling, now gives precedent to all federal officials to tax NON ACTIVITY. They can not force you to buy apples, but they can tax you if you do not. They can not force you to buy a GM vehicle, but they can tax you if you do not. They can not force you to take part in or have an abortion, but they can tax you if you do not.

This lawless decision has flung the doors wide for any and all forms of fascist dictates from the prick Obama and the Democrats and Republicans in the government.

38 posted on 07/01/2012 10:07:19 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: centurion316

39 posted on 07/01/2012 10:09:25 AM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: Jim from C-Town
The key is, IF they get the power, they have to repeal it, or the base will run and they will loose worse than 2006/08. They know it. A quick repeal and a sensible replacement, with STRONG TORT REFORM, will win them 20 years of dominance in DC

I don't want the Republicans to REPLACE Obamacare with their own big government version of healthcare. They need to start looking at free market options NOW!

40 posted on 07/01/2012 10:14:07 AM PDT by SuziQ
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