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Border Patrol union blasts DHS instructions to 'run away' & 'hide' from gunmen [O wants cartel in]
Fox News ^ | June 29 2012 | Perry Chiaramonte

Posted on 06/29/2012 12:33:02 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

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To: NoLibZone

Somehow, Monty Python comes to mind.....”Run away!” “Run away!”


81 posted on 06/30/2012 12:34:39 PM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost; stephenjohnbanker; Liz; DoughtyOne
Oh now I get it.. Because Border Patrol agents might end up getting killed by one of Eric Holder’s ‘Fast & Furious’ criminal informants like Agent Brian Terry did?

Obama's policies and political maneuvers are remarkably consistent in supporting the invasion.

82 posted on 06/30/2012 12:44:36 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: NoLibZone

Perhaps, this is where “it” starts.


83 posted on 06/30/2012 1:38:07 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

As far as I am concerned, the Feral Government has declared war on Arizona and Texas, not so sure about Culifornia and New Mexico.

I think Brewer sees it, but our Perry Winkle is too busy coming off of his run for president high right now and touring the other states.


84 posted on 06/30/2012 3:05:07 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Born to Conserve
Recommended rules of engagement:

If anyone comes North across the border armed, they die.


85 posted on 06/30/2012 3:22:11 PM PDT by QT3.14
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To: Gaffer
I thought the same thing, Run away!

It'd be funny if they weren't serious.

86 posted on 06/30/2012 3:37:14 PM PDT by csvset
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To: NoLibZone
There's still over a thousand Fast and Furious weapons out there. Another dead Border Patrol agent could doom Obama.
87 posted on 06/30/2012 8:48:04 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: NoLibZone

So if the mexican army or their police forced tried to cross the border firing their weapons they would expect the country to surrender? Oh well so much for living in a sovereign nation.

We are no longer a republic of laws, but one of criminals, looters and slaves.


88 posted on 06/30/2012 11:31:40 PM PDT by formosa (Formosa)
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To: NoLibZone

Don’t they issue border patrolmen guns? WTF!


89 posted on 07/01/2012 12:54:30 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: NoLibZone
Janet Nappy has to go. 'Run and Hide' is the typical response of a girl. But that's how she proposes to 'protect the homeland'?!? Utterly. Freaking. Bizarre!

Armed Law Enforcement Agents do NOT 'run and hide' from the bad guys. Hell, real Americans don't run and hide from a fight (Geo Patton would be spinning in his grave at 'run and hide'). But if Janet really is oh-sooooooo worried about the BP Agent's safety just -- Give Them Bigger Guns than the bad guys have.

We have plenty of M14's and 1911's in storage that could be issued tomorrow. Plus more than a few 'Tommy Guns' are still in US FedGov storage. Rake an area of brush with a Thompson and not many bad guys will be getting up afterward.

A couple weeks back I caught a part of a program on the Military Channel on 'best all time rifles' (iirc). A Sheriff said he stills prefers using a Thompson over the AR. That he knows if he hits someone with it they're going down, and staying down.

90 posted on 07/01/2012 5:37:02 AM PDT by Condor51 (Never mess with an old man. He won't fight you he'll just kill you.)
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To: doug from upland

His first goal was to takeover the economy, his second goal was to create job loss making the private sector dependent on the government, third goal, breach our borders, create unrest and destroy our security. This is another opportunity for Obama to overtly and intentionally go against the people and the constitution. Whatever the majority is for, he is against. It is his pattern and what he does, push them and see what happens. This is a test leading to complete takeover, actually I think we are already there. Barrack Obama is the greatest, best planned terrorist attack to ever strike this country.


91 posted on 07/01/2012 6:45:51 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: plain talk
But what comes to my mind is for the States to simply take the law into their own hands and ignore the Federal Government and the Supreme Court.

Are you kidding! That would be like, ALMOST taking a stand. Can't have that!

92 posted on 07/01/2012 8:46:59 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Chode
As Michele Bachmann said on Mark Levin's show Friday, we are at war and we should NOT aid the enemy...thwart the enemy's moves and throw obstacles in their path. In wars, jobs, property, lives may be lost. In war, you may have to lose something in order to WIN.
93 posted on 07/01/2012 5:28:08 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Nachum

Please add me to your ping list.


94 posted on 07/01/2012 5:29:30 PM PDT by itssme
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To: Toespi
I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. The enemy wins sometime and sometimes we win. No praise of any kind should be given to the enemy. Better we all work together and FOCUS on what we all must do to thwart this enemy, throw obstacles in their path, and WIN THE DAMN WAR IN NOVEMBER.

The evil that is socialist/communist/marxist/revolutionary/sharia-loving oboma can go to hell....let's make that happen.

95 posted on 07/01/2012 5:39:55 PM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme
Er ist Kein Kindergarten Krieg... Er ist Vernichtungskrieg!!!
96 posted on 07/01/2012 6:03:11 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Translation please?


97 posted on 07/01/2012 9:39:38 PM PDT by itssme
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To: doug from upland

Amen, Doug!


98 posted on 07/01/2012 9:52:24 PM PDT by Humidston (For the first time in my adult life I FEAR my government.)
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To: NoLibZone

I swear, we are now living in Bizzaro world. Really? LEO’s are not supposed to defend themselves and run? WTF!


99 posted on 07/01/2012 11:15:52 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever)
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To: itssme
this is no Kindergarten war, it's a war of annihilation...
100 posted on 07/02/2012 4:45:59 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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