Posted on 06/17/2012 12:25:17 PM PDT by QT3.14
In the real world, yes.
No offense but a personal blog called the Community of the Wrongly Accused, the successor to the False Rape Society isn’t exactly what I’d turn to as a trusted, reputable, and certainly not unbiased source. Just sayin’.
The kinds of things that can happen when people drink too much and don’t listen to that little voice in their head, which is their mother ...
It seemed to me (if I read the article right, and assuming the article was clear and accurate) the she *falsely* accused him of rape since she later admitted to fraternizing with him on the *one* night either of them claimed to be together. I would think that bringing false charges against him would call for more than a written reprimand and promotion??
What part of their article on the matter is wrong or biased?
If being an officer means anything at all, it means the officer is held to a higher degree of responsibility than an enlisted man, even an NCO.
After posting my last remark, I realized that, if the female officer faced any possibility of punishment, she would not have admitted fraternization, but would have maintained her accusation of rape. Escaping any punishment was probably part of her deal. Such officers deserve to get fragged some day.
Excellent annalogy.
Back in my day (man! am I gettin old, or what!) I tried my best not even to get one of those.
She got a leeter, and at least one promotion, according to the story.
“the female is not dinged for fraternazation, but shaft the male?”
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Well, he (supposedly) shafted her.
What is an ENS doing bar hopping with a bunch of Enlisted and in the same vein, What is a CPO doing hanging with other NON CPO’s + an ENS?
He probably (at least in a Military sense) deserved what he got but she should have received at least the same, more probably a stiffer punishment.
Of course I am from the ‘dinosaur’ Navy and not really up on the new, modern, feel good outfit where (apparently) everyone must be ‘friends’.
A former chief petty officer who was acquitted of raping his boss but convicted of fraternizing with her has been denied clemency, according to his lawyer.
Primary responsibilty for maintaining a professional relationship rests upon the senior ranking person involved. Therefore, unless the Chief Petty Officer outranked his “boss,” she should be convicted of fraternization.
When I got to be an O-5, I found I had more in common with the senior NCOs than I did with the junior officers. Age and responsibility made a difference.
In our CPO quarters back then, it was always emphasized that ye best f..k up not down.... Backfired it appears.
Not exactly my observation in the Army. Certainly when it came to professional and technical competence issues, a senior NCO was held to a higher standard than a new Lieutenant; the NCOs are epected to impart their competence on junior officers. However, when it came to moral/criminal/ethical matters, new Lieutenants or freshly minted Warrants were held to the the strictest accounts.
I was commissioned in '91 and, believe it or not, My Lai was still pretty fresh in the Army's psyche when it came to junior officer accountability.
I don't think it's right, either. However, it might have to do with evidence: in any such case, the evidence that he had sex with her is physical, while the evidence that she agreed isn't (in the absence of witnesses or a recording).
Maybe a man should try claiming that he was too drunk to consent, so the woman raped him.
Charges of fraternization alone are almost never brought up. It's an administrative matter. I see no reason for this young officer to have been treated differently.
Ok, my wife is right on this one. A man can still have sex with a woman if she’s semi-conscious or even unconscious. The same doesn’t hold true for men, if we’re that drunk... I guess physiological differences could come into play here.
Totally different experience in the Navy. Young officers were every bit as wild as young sailors, and the same blind eyes were turned from their direction. Lifers, officers or no, were definitely held to a higher standard.
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