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1 posted on 06/12/2012 5:29:10 AM PDT by Afisra
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“murders”

hahahahahahah

Velly funny

Deaths, ok, but murder implies innocence and these perps who got killed were not innocent.


2 posted on 06/12/2012 5:30:37 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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There is a big difference between murder and homicides.

It is not murder to kill someone who is trying to kill you, rob you ,or harm your family.

I have read many posts in Free Republic of burglars being shot and killed while in the act, it cuts down on the cost of a trial and makes the world safer for honest people.


3 posted on 06/12/2012 5:32:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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It is responsible for 700 bad guys dying each year instead of 700 good guys. I’m good with that.


4 posted on 06/12/2012 5:34:15 AM PDT by grb
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It is responsible for 700 bad guys dying each year instead of 700 good guys. I’m good with that.


5 posted on 06/12/2012 5:34:28 AM PDT by grb
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It's called "taking out the trash."

Now we know what the Saint Skittles public relations event was all about.

6 posted on 06/12/2012 5:34:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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Any source that equates justifiable homocide with murder should be laughed out of town. It would be more accurate to claim that the castle doctrine has saved taxpayers millions of dollars annually. Factoring in the reduced future robberies and injuries to victims as well as the cost of jailing the criminals and the number gets big fast.


7 posted on 06/12/2012 5:34:59 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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"Stunning Report: "Stand Your Ground" Laws Responsible for eliminating 500-700 Murders Murderers Per year"

There... fixed it

8 posted on 06/12/2012 5:37:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (I AM WRITING-IN PALIN/GINGRICH)
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responsible for a drastic increase in the number of homicides nationwide each year.
Except, of course, that the homicide rate has dropped by half in the last fifteen years.
9 posted on 06/12/2012 5:39:35 AM PDT by jdege
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'Stand your Ground' laws are actually responsible for a drastic increase in the number of homicides nationwide each year.
If this is true, then 500-700 bad guys died instead of 500-700 good guys.
I can live with that.
11 posted on 06/12/2012 5:41:17 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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"While castle doctrine law may well have benefits to those protecting themselves in self-defense (meaning the individual cases where a person uses a weapon to deter a specific crime), there is no evidence that the law provides positive spillovers by deterring crime more generally," they say."

That it benefits those protecting themselves in self-defense should be enough.

12 posted on 06/12/2012 5:42:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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Defensive use of force is ALWAYS ethical. You are preventing further harm being done to yourself, and to society at large.

Anyone suggesting otherwise is an active danger to our freedom. Period.

15 posted on 06/12/2012 5:44:25 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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“We find the laws increase murder and manslaughter by a statistically significant 7 to 9 percent, which translates into an additional 500 to 700 homicides per year nationally in states which have adopted Castle Doctrine,” researchers Cheng Cheng and Mark Hoekstra of the Texas A&M University Department of Economics say in their report.

The report also shows an increase in what is termed ‘justifiable homicide’ by up to 50% annually. They say data released by the states showed a sharp increase in justifiable homicide in the years immediately after they approved Stand Your Ground laws.”

The “study” is just a correlation not an analysis of actual homicides and how they relate to the stand your ground laws. Correlation does not prove causality, there are probably many other factors influencing the data. The “study” also says justifiable homicide increased.

17 posted on 06/12/2012 5:45:00 AM PDT by detective
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There was a whole bunch of people needing to be shot that weren't getting shot before!

It might taper off when things get caught up!

18 posted on 06/12/2012 5:45:22 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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So, if we take out 500 to 700 criminals every year, we can soon reduce our costs of housing, feeding and entertaining them in prisons. Win/win!
19 posted on 06/12/2012 5:46:28 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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It seems to me that the FBI report said that homicide was down. Murder of homeowners by armed invasion seems to be down. It seems that these people want to give criminals the right to rob, rape and kill homeowners.
20 posted on 06/12/2012 5:46:28 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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Is homicide a crime? I thought it just meant killed.


22 posted on 06/12/2012 5:46:57 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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Too late to turn the tide, Americans will do what they must to survive, to protect their homes and family.

So who is defending those that want to take away life, liberty and freedom? To inflict grievous harm?

Stand your Ground laws need to stay, needs to be defended and should not be struck down simply because some groups are complaining they cannot “get their share of booty”.


23 posted on 06/12/2012 5:49:30 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Islamoprogressivenists need not reply.)
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“While castle doctrine law may well have benefits to those protecting themselves in self-defense (meaning the individual cases where a person uses a weapon to deter a specific crime), there is no evidence that the law provides positive spillovers by deterring crime more generally,” they say.”

Talk about missing the point. I know criminals are generally stupid and not prone to making good decisions. It’s not about making them smarter, it’s about making sure innocent people have a chance to not to end up hurt or dead as a result of those decisions.

Yeesh.


24 posted on 06/12/2012 5:51:07 AM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo man is *always* intense!)
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Libs can't tell the difference between an aggressor and a defender.
Justifiable homicide is not murder.
700 is less than 5% of the more than 15,000 murders per year in the US.
How is that a "drastic increase"?
It probably contributes to the overall decline in the murder rate.

27 posted on 06/12/2012 5:54:03 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Stunning Report: "Stand Your Ground" Laws Responsible for 500-700 Murders Per year

Research conducted at Texas A&M University concludes that far from reducing crime rates, so called 'Stand your Ground' laws are actually responsible for a drastic increase in the number of homicides nationwide each year.

All murders are homicides but not all homicides are murders.
29 posted on 06/12/2012 5:55:47 AM PDT by aruanan
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