Posted on 05/31/2012 6:26:26 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
A hearing has been scheduled in a Florida court to allow attorneys representing the White House to support their claim that the term “natural born citizen” in the U.S. Constitution means something other than the offspring of two American citizens.
Judge Terry Lewis in Leon County has set a hearing for June 18 to consider arguments from both sides of a challenge to Obama’s name on the 2012 state election ballot.
Lewis is credited with making crucial rulings in the contested 2000 presidential election, when ultimately a Florida vote recount was halted by the U.S. Supreme Court and George W. Bush was declared the winner.
Attorney Larry Klayman’s law firm filed the challenge to Obama’s name on the ballot on behalf of Democrat Michael Voeltz, “a registered member of the Democrat Party, voter, and taxpayer in Broward County, who was an eligible elector for the Florida Primary of Jan. 31, 2012.”
Klayman told WND that during a hearing today on discovery issues in the case, Lewis noted that while Klayman’s brief cited a U.S. Supreme Court’s decision defining “natural born citizen” as the offspring of two citizens of the nation, the White House’s arguments provided no citations.
Klayman had cited the U.S. Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett from 1875.
Lewis ordered further briefing on the issue before the hearing.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I have come to the conclusion that all the main stream media (including FOX) have there reputations riding on them not finding out the truth. Just look at how many newscasters that say Obama is a natural born citizen. If and when the truth ever comes out a lot of these guys will have it hanging over there heads for life.
“Here is an idea for Trump if he wants to show up Obama...”
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Well, feel free to suggest it to Trump, but to me that looks too much like one more publicity stunt, just the kind of thing that makes people say, why not put the money into a real investigation and come up with solid facts?
The people that need to be convinced want to see legal evidence. Trump should support an investigation that will turn up credible, admissible evidence — and, in my opinion, there is little to be gained at this point on the Hawaiian end. Evidence needs to be found concerning his birth elsewhere, Kenya or wherever it was.
Corsi claims the grandmother said in clear Swahili that Barry was born in Mombasa while his mom was visiting the grandmother's relatives there.
Corsi also published in his book images of claimed secret Kenyan government documents describing how when the government conducted a search for Barry's BC, the Mombasa birth record files were stolen for the dates surrounding the dates of the expected birth.
Other Kenyan docs published by Corsi show that the Bush Administration had requested the search for Barry's birth records in Kenya. Perhaps that was as a result of his extensive history of claiming to have been born there.
How much of this ever ends up in federal court remains to be seen.
Okay.
“There have been long threads with claims of evidence...”
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Yes, that’s exactly my point. There are “claims of evidence,” and they can be found on “long threads” here.
Can’t the evidence be tracked down? Can’t it be documented? Can’t the good, solid stuff be separated from the garbage so that there aren’t long threads with claims of evidence, but rather a concise presentation of nothing but solid, irrefutable evidence?
Why has no one done that? What’s so friggin’ hard about it? I honestly believe that if Trump wanted it to be done, it would be done. This is not a big job for a competent investigator, especially if the preliminary work has already been done.
Do you have a link to that information?
Which information? The first part is on the records you have already seen. The second part is personal knowledge. I can try to find a link if you like.
Here you go. Took about five seconds to find it on Google:
http://sarapanekonomi.blogspot.com/2006/10/do-many-indonesians-go-by-single-name.html
Thank you!
Yes, that’s the one I was referring to. It doesn’t ask for a relationship. That section is specifically for children. The passport application is a U.S. application. Soebarkah, Soetoro and Jakarta are the only “Indonesian” words on there, so there’s nothing her that would presume that it’s not part of how the child was identified ... i.e., a name or nickname.
I know. That's why the "mood music" link was to Ray Charles singing "Georgia On My Mind."
:)
This elegantly circular argument between the "Birthers," and the "Constitutionalists," should keep you busy until the cows come home, Uncle Sham. It is also, IMNSVHO, the crux of Team Obama's strategy for de-fanging the issue of constitutional eligibility. Obama cannot prove he was born in Hawaii. Apparently, we can't prove he wasn't. He has admitted that his father was a foreign subject. "But without a genuine BC," you say, "how can we figure out exactly who the papa was?"
Rather than rule one way or tother, the courts, up to and including The Supreme Court have decided that the whole issue isn't worth their time. Sheriff Joe has proof of documentary chicanery ... but nowhere to take it. In the meantime Rubio and Jindal are being bruited about as VP candidates. That, IMNSVHO, means that neither party is interested in constitutional eligibility at this time.
Suffice it to say, that with 5 months to go until the election, this whole fandango just might be a classic misdirection, a waste of bandwidth, and a tremendous gift to Obama's re-election campaign. Just what is a reasonable fellow to do?
IMNSVHO, fuggedaboutit. Let's concentrate on job 1,
In re: We have yet to see a valid document
TRUE.WE have yet to see one, yet those in authority to challenge the documents have accepted them. Perhaps, just maybe, I hope, that after the Magic Marxist Mombasa Mulatto leaves office, the black-robed bumkissers of our judicial branch will bestir themselves to look at the ENTIRE citizenship issue ... after that is, they feel the threat of "urban unrest" has past. For example, IMNSVHO, the consummately stupid and pernicious custom of awarding citizenship to the offspring of those here illegally, the children of legal non-citizen residents, or the children born to visitors on a tourist visa, has absolutely no basis in law.
If, in fact, he has been since day one, our entire government has been stolen from us.
The states vary as to how they address this issue but in general have been far too lax. I don't know about Florida, but it seems anyone can run for anything and get away with it unless a challenge is put forth from the citizens or opponents, etc. This is opposite the way it should be. Challenges, and with them, the burden of proof, should be from those seeking placement upon the ballot. This way, the the eligibility issue would be legally addressed PRIOR to allowing someone on the ballot, whatever the office, especially the office of President.
If they won't do this they could pass a "Usurper Protection" Law which would require verification of compliance with the Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 before any signed legislation is obeyed by the state with such a law. This would make certain that Congress was doing its duty as well as protect that states citizens from the actions of a usurper. Since such a law would essentially be supporting enforcement of the Constitution, I don't see how it could be ruled unconstitutional.
So Obama used his adopted name “son of Soetoro” in Indonesia? I wonder if that is the name on the passport he used no one is allowed to see.
The argument should be between the "qualified" or "failed to qualify" part of the Twentieth Amendment, Section 3. Yes or no, did he, or didn't he? Our members of Congress need to be asked this question and provided an opportunity to show we the people why the answer is what it is. "I don't know" is an answer breaking their oath of office. "No, he didn't" is an answer that they have not only broken their oaths of office but have been complicit in committing treason against their country.
Sheriff Joe needs to question the entire Arizona congressional delegation and get their answers to the "qualified" or failed to qualify" question. Put John McCain first in line.
She did it because Lolo Soetoro was the Indonesian legal adopting father of litlle barry bastard mooselimb commie. She put that title on the form because Barry was LEGALLY the adopted son of Lolo Soetoro.
We are witnessing the SCOTUS of the pirate Roberts kicking the bastard can down the road. The plan appears to be to allow some challenged to little barry’s eligibility to proceed, slowly, until the election is over, the swearing in aof another President has happened and thus the eligibility of the past occupant is a mute point. Don’t expect the Roberts court to uphold or defend the Constitution when he was placed at the helm for the specific reason to circumvent OUR Constitution as the new world order takes gradual control of America via fiat treaties and fraudulent rulings. we will be maneuvered into the same usurpation now in evidence in the EU if we do not stop these traitors. Look at traitors like Trent Lott and how he has sold US out to the UN Treaty of The Seas! What must the democrats and their power bosses hold in a file that makes Trent Lott so easy to flip to their NWO agenda? RINOs will be the aide de camps for the democrat abortion of the Republic.
There is sufficient doubt ... DOUBT ....NOT exactly PROOF ... that this strange fellow who is living in the White House may not be as advertised. That alone is enough for any state AG, or SoS to simply do his job and ask for the fellow to come up with some bona fides.
The fact that this was not done in 2006,2007, 2008, and is not done now is the cause of this problematic person in office.
Twentieth Amendment, Section 3. Yes or no, did he, or didn't he?
Uncle Sham, this simple-enough question has been put to innumerable REPUBLICAN elected officials ... by me among others ... and the answer is quite reliable.
They all reply, with a straight face, "He was born in Hawaii," as if the Constitutional Requirements somehow involve sun, sand, surfing and tiny bubbles in the wine.
In the meantime, the country is going to hell in a handbasket and the topic is off limits.
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