House to vote on Trayvon amendment

The Washington Times ^ | 8 May 2012 | Stephen Dinan

[rarestia]

House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.

The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the House's debate on the Commerce Department spending bill.

Emphasis added

[patriotspride]

And he shall be Trayvon
And he shall be a hood man
And he shall be Trayvon
In tradition with the family plan

And he shall be Trayvon
And he shall be a hood man

He shall be Trayvon...

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Trayvon buys his skittles at Seven Eleven,
He eats a lot they say.

He was born a robber to the town,
when the NY Times said gun rights were dead,
and the wars begun today,
Freedom has a new son they say

He shall be Georgie, and he shall be a good man....

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Enjoyed yours, hope you like this addition

[MrB]

Glad to hear that, but that STILL isn’t whom these thugs in congress are aiming at.

[DaveA37]

If the U.S government is threating to withold funding to states that have “Defend Yourself” type laws, isn’t that bordering on “black mail”? Then again, I’m not surprised at anything they come up with anymore.

[DaveA37]

If the U.S government is threating to withold funding to states that have “Defend Yourself” type laws, isn’t that bordering on “black mail”? Then again, I’m not surprised at anything they come up with anymore.

[sport]

It is like everything else that the majority of those who cast their votes on November 4, 2008 said they wanted, it depends on who does/says it. Since then, while all animals are equal, some are more equal than others.

To illustrate: You say publically that you will pay X amount of dollars for someone to kill a named individual, see how quick that you are in the crossbar hotel.

[Pollster1]

That put me over the edge. That representative is essentially saying that no life, even that of a victim, is worth saving.

To democrats, unborn children aren't worth saving, unwanted newborns aren't worth saving, and our grandparents aren't worth saving. Why would crime victims be any different?

[Titan Magroyne]

Check this, they’ve already withdrawn their attempt at this law THIS TIME.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/8/democrats-withdraw-trayvon-amendment/

Not because it’s such a terrible law, but for fear of it being ruled out of order via the rules of debate.

From the link above: “The Ellison amendment would have docked federal criminal justice grants to states that have stand-your-ground laws, which allow residents to use deadly force to respond to an attack without first having to retreat.”

Sounds fair to me. No middle man needed - no middle man getting paid to expend his budget on SWAT’s war against dogs.

[Still Thinking]

This is why those grants are in insidious thing. The confiscate money from the citizens of state X, then pay X’s legislators to do things adverse to the freedoms of their own constituents (and the owners of the money) just like in this case! I posted an essay on this one time. This issue doesn’t get nearly the attention it deserves.

[Still Thinking]

That put me over the edge. That representative is essentially saying that no life, even that of a victim, is worth saving.

It's even WORSE than that. The victim's life isn't worth protecting, but the perp's IS!!

[LevinFan]

I’m no treyvon fan, the burglary tools and jewelry were from a school incident. Here didn’t have them at the time of his death.
But those items do show a likely larsonous attitude.

[newfreep]

LOL - nice Bernie Taupin reference

[Still Thinking]

But this would make the perfect opportunity to get the states off the federal dole. Want to assert your independence, pass a SYG law and tell the fed to go f@#$ itself.

That's perfectly permissible. The feds would laugh all the way to the bank, because they get to keep money that's not theirs in the first place. Yes, you have to abolish the grants, but you also have to remove that amount from their revenue stream and give it back to the people, who can then vote to send it (all of it, free of federal skim and liberty-slashing strings) to their states to do the stuff that it was to fund, IF THEY WANT TO. The feds, by offering it in this way, have tacitly admitted they have that much excess over the amount necessary to complete Constitutionally mandated federal duties, so their possession of this money proves you've been overtaxed.

[LevinFan]

One of these days, a mob of treyvon chanting morons is going to go after the wrong target. Then the mod will go nuts when 5 or 6 of their own are “cooling their heals” on the ground when the police show up.

[Still Thinking]

Can states withhold collected taxes to the feds?

They don't go through the states' hands, but the states could tell their citizens to deduct x-percent from their bills and that state LEO's would protect anyone doing so from federal recourse, by force if necessary.

Also, the payments are sent by check or electronic transfer and must be paid by local banks, staffed by state residents, and some of the banks additional are operating on state charters.

[thethirddegree]

This amendment has been withdrawn by the Democrats. Story at http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/may/8/democrats-withdraw-trayvon-amendment/

[Jay Santos CP]

One of these days, a mob of treyvon chanting morons is going to go after the wrong target.

I see similar comments, along the lines of, "just wait until the mob attacks a CCW holder".

I honestly don't think a few individuals successfully using lethal force in these race beatings is going to make any difference. Look at what the media did to this Zimmerman. ABC news actually changed the audio of the 911 call to suggest he was focused on black people. ABC news did that. Then the prosecutor talks about having prayed with the parents of Martin. She prayed with Al Sharpton.

I think we're being told that in the event of a racially motivated beating, you had just better run. The state will not be supporting your defensive actions.

[LevinFan]

Actually, I was suggesting that when a shooting incident happens(and one will happen) after a mob attack, that the mob people will go nuts on how racist it was.

[Noumenon]

That representative is essentially saying that no life, even that of a victim, is worth saving.

It goes deeper than that. From my book in progress:

Here is the Vulcan mind-meld translation of the core premise of the modern progressive Left: you have no right to live. By their lights, you are no more than a thing, an animal, or a machine. Therefore, you have no right to the fruits of your labors; you have no right to your own life. You become mere property of the state, a fungible asset to be used, to be disposed of, and ultimately to be eliminated. This premise is, has been, and continues to be central to the justification for the wholesale slaughter of millions of human beings, and the enslavement, impoverishment and torture of hundreds of millions more. You are nothing more than a ‘resource’ at best. Or you are in their way and must be eliminated. There, in a nutshell, are the last 150 years of bad ideas and their practical consequences.

These monsters are spiral-eyed crazy with hate for you and everything you hold dear. There is only one way they can be stopped.

[wastedyears]

We need to stop assuming that Obama, Congress and the Senate actually understand, believe in and uphold something like the 10th Amendment. When that happens, we may be better able to fully understand them.

[TigersEye]

AKA “Da Gang Banga Car Jacka Thuggin’ Fo Hoes Protection Act.”