Skip to comments.Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.
We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!
We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!
And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!
Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!
The Republic we save may be our own!!
As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.
Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!
We are the resistance!!
Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!
Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!
But I have been out and about on the ground, explaining to people that Romney is more of the same. I've convinced 5 so far to not vote for that liberal.
In re: Palin, I’d be happy to support her, but ONLY if she’s actually running. Same as any other candidate. They can get my support when they run.
Thanks for your efforts, there. That’s excellent.
I’d say go to the next level down, then. Or - better yet -try to replace the “They” that said “No Thanks”. Get local people to back you up, and show up with you. Get THEIR job at the next election and replace one of “them”.
I think the point is, we keep hammering and kicking on the door until the door caves in, then drag “them” out of a job and replace them with our people.
So am I and I won't be voting for him in the primary either but I WILL be voting for him in November! There is NO other choice short of all out armed revolution.
LOL, that's pretty much just one person spamming old anti-Romney stories people have already read or otherwise don't care about. It's like a daily temper tantrum resulting in useless dated material being sprayed out on to the forums. The primaries are effectively done, we know who the nominee is. Romney sucks, but he is our only shot at removing Hussein from office. Lets hope that sort of silly activity winds down now.
Care to point to a few? Because I read FR a lot and must have missed them.’
BTW, your response is a cop out. Instead of retyping you can cut and paste.
Fail on your part, mostly because your premise is incorrect.
Nope. The GOP is poisoned and not pro-conservative and never will be.
Time for something else.
Exactly....Romney and Obama are socialists...Conservatives don't vote for socialists. The Gop caused this mess...and further threw half the countries voters in the ditch when Romney claimed he didn't need thier votes and 'assumed' his win...with the press stepping on the gas to run it fast by the public! Without the press no true conservative candidate can win....we just saw this.
We lost in this Primary, and the Gop/Romneyand the Press made certain that would be so.
Otherwise grow the EFF up!
Very interesting remark coming from a newbie who’s over here laughing his ass off at the “problems” JR and FR are dealing with.
“U.S. Term Limits, Inc. v. Thornton (1995): a case in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that states cannot impose qualifications for prospective members of the U.S. Congress stricter than those specified in the Constitution. The decision invalidated the Congressional term limit provisions of 23 states...”
Also, during the 1994 Republican Revolution, a lot of the Republicans elected to the House had signed a pledge to serve only 3-terms (6-years). When 2000 came, many broke their pledge.
I see that. I just saw his response to you right after a reply to me and saw the four letters being used. There is no reason to be threatening anyone at this time with that when people are on edge right now.
Personally I've been living that for over thirty years and it HAS made a difference! When I started you couldn't even say the word republican in most corners of Texas and now you cannot get elected to anything as a Democrap here!
NOW we work on weeding out the RINOS and are making great progress there as well!
Is there more work to do? Hell yes and lots of it but cutting and running isn't going to accomplish ANYTHING!
To refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils puts one in the position of support for the greater of the same two evils by the simple act of not standing in the way of the greater evils eventually triumph.
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No to vote for the ‘lesser’ of two evils is still to vote for EVIL. I am standing in the way of evil triumphing on ANY level.
But go ahead, compromise, vote for evil and pat yourself on the back. You only have yourself to blame.
Too little and too late IMO.
After demonizing every poster that expressed even the most tepid support for anyone besides the preferred candidate of FR, whatever candidate of that day that might have been, many of us have voted with our keyboards and have given up on FR.
I certainly have.
This is the first post I have made in months. It is likely to be one of my last.
And as far as financial supporting FR; Why would I give money to a site that would ban me without appeal on the whim of some unknown moderator all for not toeing the “approved” line ?
“...the established GOP has a lock on the rule book ...”
But - I guess I don’t understand how this works - how do/did they become “the established GOP” in the first place???
Seems to me that’s who needs replacement/overhaul...they’ve got names, they’ve got faces, and they’re elected?? Nominated?? Appointed??
Third party just gives us Democommie control for eternity...
The definitive 2012 Republican bumper sticker.
There is no reason to be threatening anyone at this time with that when people are on edge right now.
People are indeed on edge. And other people are ecstatic about it. See post 549. Why do you suppose EC brought you into the mix there are TBL? Do you post there also?
Then you might as well vote for him in the primary as well.
Id say go to the next level down, then. Or - better yet -try to replace the They that said No Thanks.
Or run for the GOP nomination for the original office anyway, opposing "Their" candidate. At a minimum, you'll expose some RINOs.
I for one will not ride the "maybe Palin will run" train again. Either she does or she doesn't..and I get no indication she has the Presidency in mind at all. In fact who is to say the GOP isn't just setting us up with this propaganda news, especially since she's made it clear she wouldn't run for family....she'll still have her family then.
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