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1 posted on 04/30/2012 8:54:58 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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Sirhan Sirhan praised by Bill Ayers.

Barack Obama praised by Bill Ayers.

Kennedy democrats are complete fools to relate to the Kenyan and his buddies on ANYTHING.

2 posted on 04/30/2012 9:01:32 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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There was another Moslem with a gun in the crowd?


3 posted on 04/30/2012 9:04:39 AM PDT by Ingtar (When I donate to FR, it does not take the money and run as every politician I donate to does)
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Was the second shooter wearing a tinfoil hat? Probably not, because if had one on then the aliens couldn’t communicate their evil wishes to him. Nina thankfully had her hat on and thank goodness for that, otherwise the ‘truth’ wouldn’t be out there.

Another awesome piece of reporting by CNN.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 9:06:09 AM PDT by jerod (They were Socialist, Pro-Abortionist, Gun Control Nuts & Excessive Environmentalist -the NAZI party)
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He’d be more believable if he claimed to have had an affair with JFK.


7 posted on 04/30/2012 9:07:57 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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There’s a number of Kennedy stories in the press lately. There was one about one of JFK’s favorite flings who was killed not too long after he was. She had CIA connections.


9 posted on 04/30/2012 9:10:27 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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Well, surprise, surprise! Sirhan Sirhan, who claims he doesn't remember anything about the shooting, had some help.

Gosh, Doc! Did yer tin-foil hat fall off or sumpin'?

No, oh naive ones. Isn't it amazing how high profile public figures who go off the reservation end up dead? Like Bobby's brother John who wanted out of Vietnam and who had signed an executive order for the U.S. Treasury to start printing dollars, effectively ending the Fed's hegemony. Or JFK's "murderer", Lee Harvey Oswald, just happened to be a sitting duck for Jack Ruby who also happened to die very quickly after shooting Oswald.

The term "conspiracy theorist" has become an epithet with which to attack those who question the status quo. Tell me that Hitler wasn't involved in a conspiracy to take over Germany. Tell me that there are not now and never have been any Marxist conspirators who seek the control of America.

If we know these things are true, then why swallow the FedGov BS on assassinations?

11 posted on 04/30/2012 9:14:22 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Don't vote for anyone who worked for Goldman Sachs)
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Sirhan used a US made Iver Johnson Cadet 8 shot .22 cal revolver.

One web site claims it was made in Europe and was responsible for the 1968 Gun control law. I do not believe this unless I see an actual revolver with Made in Germany on it.

IJ continued to make these revolvers for years.


24 posted on 04/30/2012 9:43:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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"I think to assist me in healing -- although you're never 100% healed from that.

Umm.... where the hell has she been the last forty-two years?

26 posted on 04/30/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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Sirhan was an Arab Communist PLO sympathizer who targeted RFK because he (like liberals in that long ago era) was strongly pro-Israel.

It's hard to believe now, but once upon a time in America the Left was pro-Israel and the Right was anti-Israel (though the Right on this issue most assuredly did not represent their Biblical Fundamentalist contingent). While pro-Israel liberals now cry like babies at the idea that conservatives are more pro-Israel than they are, the liberals of that era actually denied the right or claim of any conservative to support Israel. They claimed it as an absolute monopoly. No conservatives need apply. And unfortunately, not a lot of conservatives were applying.

Internationally, the Left had long rejected its very brief support of Zionism (in the late 1940's when they were looking for anything to hit the "British Empire" with), but in America the Left rallied around Israel and claimed it as their own. Israel, they claimed, was an island of liberalism and progressivism in a sea of Arab reaction. They even opposed the PLO, even as they supported the PLO's comrades in every corner of the globe (just as conservatives who opposed the PLO's comrades couldn't quite bring themselves to condemn the PLO).

Liberals like to remember that Fidel Castro refused to break off diplomatic relations with Israel in 1967 when the rest of the Communist bloc did. What they forget is that Castro did break diplomatic relations with Israel after the 1973 war and did a complete about-face without a single thought. Liberals also don't like to remember that as early as 1966--one year before the Six Day War provoked Communist condemnation of Israel--the "pro-Israel" Castro was hosting Yasser Arafat and other "palestinian" terrorists at the Tri-Continental Conference for Peace.

I have on several occasions in the past also pointed out that in 1982, when the Right Wing government of Menachem Begin sent the IDF into Lebanon to clear out the PLO, American ultra-leftists Jane Fonda and then husband Tom Hayden actually went to Lebanon to defend Israel's actions and entertain Israeli troops. They pointed out (quite correctly, as it was) that Israel was being attacked directly from Lebanon while North Vietnam and the Vietcong were not attacking American territory. However--they were being perfectly consistent with the then domestic American Leftist line that Israel was "the Cuba of the Middle East" (even under Begin) and that supporting North Vietnam and Israel was perfectly consistent (despite the fact that North Vietnam itself was vehemently anti-Israel and pro-Arab).

Now Jane Fonda has suddenly fallen in love with the "reactionary" Arabs and is assailing the former "Cuba of the Middle East." What happened?

The answer is very simple. The "line" changed. Unlike those of us on the Right, current fashion means everything to the Left. The fact that contemporary liberals can now not even remember ever having supported Israel to begin with merely illustrates this fact. When Israel was "cool," they were pro-Israel. When Israel became "un-cool" they did a complete about face without the slightest qualm because they apparently don't have any internal beliefs on anything; they merely seek to be "fashionable." How else to explain the Israeli Labour Party's going from hawkish David Ben Gurion and Golda Meir to its current self-hating "our country was a mistake" line?

Those of us on the Right who supported Israel back then didn't allow ourselves to be bullied by the predominant anti-Israel consensus on our side of the spectrum. And I highly suspect that those on the Right who remain anti-Israel also don't give a fig for current consensus. That is because whether people on the Right support or oppose Israel, they do so for deeply-held principals that cannot be compromised. Not so the Left.

To show you how far the domestic Left (again, as opposed to the International Left, which was always anti-Israel) has changed, even the alleged "pro-Israel" remarks of Martin Luther King Jr. are now being attacked because he was unfamiliar with the subject and didn't know what he was talking about. Martin, meet your replacement: the King of Saudi Arabia.

How long before RFK is either disowned for being pro-Israel or his pro-Israel position erased from history?

27 posted on 04/30/2012 10:06:18 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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In any crime the question is “Who benefits?”. My choice has always been LBJ even the MLK murder and the Wallace shooting helped him establish his re-enslavement through the “Great Society”. The enslavement is for everybody now.
28 posted on 04/30/2012 10:06:50 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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* for later


31 posted on 04/30/2012 10:36:29 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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"There were more than eight shots," Rhodes-Hughes said by phone. She says that during the FBI interview in her Los Angeles home, one month after the assassination, she told the agents that she'd heard 12 to 14 shots. "There were at least 12, maybe 14. And I know there were because I heard the rhythm in my head," Rhodes-Hughes said.

"rhythm in my head". What do you make of that?

Most shooters in DGUs are unaware of the precise number of rounds fired. In many cases the gun is shot empty. (A citizen coming to the aid of an attempted assassination of the P.O. here in Phoenix in the mid nighties, emptied, then reloaded his Glock 32 in 357Sig. He fired two 13-round magazines, before he realized it. Of course he knew how many rounds he fired FROM the number of empty magazines. He wasn't counting.)

I find it hard to believe someone can count 12-14 shots by "keeping the rhythm in one's head". In Hollywood gun fights on TV, shooters seldom reload, but manage to put many more rounds down range than what is physically possible. Do viewers even know?

In a closed room can one really tell the origin of gun fire based upon sound?

What I was looking for in the article was whether Rhodes-Huges had any familiarity with weapons. Didn't see it.

34 posted on 04/30/2012 11:12:23 AM PDT by nonsporting
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Sirhan is a Christian Arab who was born in Jerusalem and who strongly opposed Israel. In 1989, he told David Frost “My only connection with Robert Kennedy was his sole support of Israel and his deliberate attempt to send those 50 bombers to Israel to obviously do harm to the Palestinians”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan


35 posted on 04/30/2012 11:15:01 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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I only scanned the article but is there any physical evidence to suggest a second gun? If 14 shots from .22s were fired in the confined, crowded space, how come there were either not more bullet wounds in RFK (and/or others) or recoverable bullets in the walls, cabinets, doors, etc.?

In the confusion of the moment, I doubt anyone could accurately remember how many shots they heard - only that they heard a bunch. Is there news reel footage of this? Surely, someone has tried to determine the number of shots from the tape.

39 posted on 04/30/2012 11:32:52 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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JFK was most certainly murdered by a plot hatched by LBJ according to the last episode of “The Men Who Killed Kennedy”, which has since completely disappeared and is not including now in the box set nor is it on the ‘net any longer.
Other stuff I’ve dug through also points to this.

RFK? I don’t know. None of that makes sense other than a plot by the Mafia.


49 posted on 04/30/2012 1:33:52 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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