Posted on 04/23/2012 9:30:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
FREEPER COMMENTS REQUESTED: Is it just me, or is Mary Matalin way off base today with her entire theme for the show (guest hosting for Rush). Now I normally like her work tremendously, but her idea that we should search for "virtue" in government and for "virtuous people" to be in government seems extremely naive.
The only virtue in government is its limit. We will never get a government full of virtuous people. By definition, government is power and virtuous people are not drawn to that. Our Founders knew that. This is why they insisted on LIMITED government. Wake up Mary!
Chris Matthews has hosted. (I’m guessing you already knew that ;-)
Lame, feel-good blather is no substitute for Rush. The root of virtually all of our problems is Liberalism, Mary.
Yep, I remember that day too, truly was a WTF moment.
But some are much better than others.
Last caller and Mary agreed, debt is bondage. Good call.
You attacked her for asking for virtue in government.
Cut the weaseling.
Take your vile, unsubstantiated and calculated slander of Franklin somewhere else, shill. Franklin was a brilliant and moral Founder of this country. Clinton raped the Oval Office along with numerous women and the entire rest of the country.
Yeah, Hillary's going to run, but shop your support-crap for her on another website.
I’ll just keep the volume down until Sean comes on at 3PM.
Doesn’t matter who Rush puts on to host. Nobody here would like them anyway.
They may like them before the show, but they won’t after.
Or, they may hate them before the show and like them after or until they have to end up under the bus with the rest of the dirtbags.
Everyone is a RINO.
In fact, there are people posting here right now that were posting on threads barely a month ago that already threw Rush under the bus declaring they would never listen to him evah again!
Geesh, so funny.
-—Steyn apparently does long hits of nitrous oxide between air segments - he laughs and sputters for air uncontrollably through his monologues.-—
You put your finger on it. He’s always laughing at his own “jokes.”
I like most of Rush’s guest hosts. Roger is my favorite. Mary’s too boring. Steyn doesn’t bring much that’s substantial, if you listen carefully. We know everything sucks, Mark.
No, that’s not why I made the comment. Ignorant much?
I wish I were drunk now. Maybe this interview would be more interesting.
Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.
George Washington
If Virtue & Knowledge are diffused among the People, they will never be enslav'd. This will be their great Security.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, February 12, 1779
Illustrious examples are displayed to our view, that we may imitate as well as admire. Before we can be distinguished by the same honors, we must be distinguished by the same virtues. What are those virtues? They are chiefly the same virtues, which we have already seen to be descriptive of the American character — the love of liberty, and the love of law.
James Wilson, Of the Study of the Law in the United States, Circa 1790
It is an object of vast magnitude that systems of education should be adopted and pursued which may not only diffuse a knowledge of the sciences but may implant in the minds of the American youth the principles of virtue and of liberty and inspire them with just and liberal ideas of government and with an inviolable attachment to their own country.
Noah Webster, On the Education of Youth in America
It is certainly true that a popular government cannot flourish without virtue in the people.
Richard Henry Lee, letter to Colonel Martin Pickett, March 5, 1786
It is necessary for every American, with becoming energy to endeavor to stop the dissemination of principles evidently destructive of the cause for which they have bled. It must be the combined virtue of the rulers and of the people to do this, and to rescue and save their civil and religious rights from the outstretched arm of tyranny, which may appear under any mode or form of government.
Mercy Warren, History of the Rise, Progress, and Termination of the American Revolution, 1805
Nothing is more essential to the establishment of manners in a State than that all persons employed in places of power and trust must be men of unexceptionable characters.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775
Religion, morality and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.
The Northwest Ordinance, July 23, 1787
Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall, when the wise are banished from the public councils, because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded, because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833
You don’t like Mark Belling?
He’s a classic
“Yes, I know the Founders wanted virtue - but their insurance policy against lack of virtue was LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Less government equals more virtue - and any body can figure that out.”
You refute yourself. Limited government cannot be an insurance policy against lack of virtue. Only virtuous adherence to limited government ensures limited government.
Anybody can’t figure that out—you can’t figure out that you contradict yourself.
Limited government does not exist as a thing in itself. It exists when people make choices. Limited government is not a thing that can be “insurance policy.”
Lmited government, when and where it actually takes place, IS the exercise of virtue in government.
Coma inducing. Even worse than Rove!
The earlier subs were good like Williams & Hedgecock. These "Mark's" & this women don't make it & I do not listen to any of them. Currently I listen at times to Tammy Bruce when EL RUSHBO is gone.
It’s exactly why I am listening to Wilkow today on Sirius.
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