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Polygamy, Too (If marriage can evolve in terms of gender, why not in terms of number?)
National Review ^ | 04/20/2012 | By David J. Rusin

Posted on 04/21/2012 6:41:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Tennessee Nana
Rick was right about a lot of things. He was the only candidate that understood that the family is the most fundamental level of social organization between people, and as such, the building block for any society, be it a village, city, state, nation, etc.

When you start redefining and corrupting the family, you undermine all higher levels of organization, and indeed, it's a critical step to "fundamentally transforming" a nation.

I was glad to hear Mark Davis, on Rush's show yesterday plug this book...

Santorum understands the thesis of this book and has a holistic vision of the inter-connectedness between social, fiscal, and foreign policies. It's a pity too many GOP primary voters failed to do so.

21 posted on 04/21/2012 7:50:30 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SeekAndFind

Or species.


22 posted on 04/21/2012 7:54:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: GenXteacher

The old “but it will never happen here” gambit.


23 posted on 04/21/2012 7:59:42 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tennessee Nana

Coming soon to a town in your state. Mormons, Muslims and More! Polygamy is more natural than Gay marriage—at least its found in the Bible and not listed as an Abomination.


24 posted on 04/21/2012 7:59:52 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some would argue species as well. Seriously.

I am pessimistic that the ‘mainsteam’ American culture can survive the present level od decadence and debauch.


25 posted on 04/21/2012 8:03:41 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: onedoug

“The old “but it will never happen here” gambit.”

With the end result being the destruction of civilization.


26 posted on 04/21/2012 8:07:26 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Reily

I want to marry bacon.


27 posted on 04/21/2012 8:08:25 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (You mean we have a choice between M.R. and B.O.?)
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To: MuttTheHoople
Why would anyone want more than one wife?

One is more than enough.

28 posted on 04/21/2012 8:09:13 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (You mean we have a choice between M.R. and B.O.?)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have been saying this for years: If there is nothing special about marriage being between one man and one woman, what is so special about the number two?


29 posted on 04/21/2012 8:17:14 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: SeekAndFind
... and the phenomenon has gained particular traction among black Muslims.

With so many of the men locked up; what would one expect?

30 posted on 04/21/2012 8:17:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana
In God’s eyes both forms of deviant sex are equally evil and forbidden....

Now see here!


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.
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58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.


 

58 Now, as touching the law of the apriesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.

59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was aAaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that bsent me, and I have endowed him with the ckeys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit dsin, and I will justify him.

60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God.

61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse aanother, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else.

62 And if he have aten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.

63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to amultiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be bglorified.

64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law.

65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take aHagar to wife.

66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen.


31 posted on 04/21/2012 8:19:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JudyinCanada

The American psychiatric community is already re-naming pediphilia as “inter-generational sex”.


32 posted on 04/21/2012 8:20:07 AM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: MIchaelTArchangel
Why would anyone want a harum?

Next!

33 posted on 04/21/2012 8:21:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: LibertarianLiz

And we know shrinks become shrinks because they need the most help.


34 posted on 04/21/2012 8:24:04 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
...at least its found in the Bible and not listed as an Abomination.

What IS it 'listed' as??


 

Polygamy: How it all got Started


 
 
 
Joe: Hey Emma!   Guess what!?
 
Emma: You KNOW I hate these guessing games! What is it, Dear?
 
Joe: I heard a voice, probably the Lord, tell me I must take other wives.
 
Emma: WHAT!?   You ding bat!  Don't you KNOW what our precious BOOK says?   After all; YOU are the one that translated it!
 
Joe: Books; schmooks.   All I know is I've been COMMANDED to take other wives and you are to OBEY ME!!!
 
 
Emma:      "Though shalt NOT commit ADULTERY!!!"
 
 
Joe: Silly Woman!  You KNOW better than to take things out of CONTEXT!!!
 
 
 
 
 

 
...and the rest is HISTORY...
 

 
 
 
 
 
THE BOOK OF JACOB
THE BROTHER OF NEPHI
CHAPTER 2
 
  24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.
  25 Wherefore, thus saith the Lord, I have led this people forth out of the land of Jerusalem, by the power of mine arm, that I might raise up unto me a righteous branch from the fruit of the loins of Joseph.
  26 Wherefore, I the Lord God will not suffer that this people shall do like unto them of old.
  27 Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none;
  28 For I, the Lord God, delight in the chastity of women. And whoredoms are an abomination before me; thus saith the Lord of Hosts.
  29 Wherefore, this people shall keep my commandments, saith the Lord of Hosts, or cursed be the land for their sakes.
  30 For if I will, saith the Lord of Hosts, raise up seed unto me, I will command my people; otherwise they shall hearken unto these things.
  31 For behold, I, the Lord, have seen the sorrow, and heard the mourning of the daughters of my people in the land of Jerusalem, yea, and in all the lands of my people, because of the wickedness and abominations of their husbands.
  32 And I will not suffer, saith the Lord of Hosts, that the cries of the fair daughters of this people, which I have led out of the land of Jerusalem, shall come up unto me against the men of my people, saith the Lord of Hosts.
 

Or even HERE:
 

 1 Timothy 3:2-3
 2.  Now the overseer must be above reproach, the husband of but one wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
 3.  not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
 
 
1 Timothy 3:12
   A deacon must be the husband of but one wife and must manage his children and his household well.
 
 
 Titus 1:6
   An elder must be blameless, the husband of but one wife, a man whose children believe and are not open to the charge of being wild and disobedient.



 
 
Emma: That's IT!   I'm LEAVING your sorry *!!!
 
Joe:  DARN you Emma; you were TOLD to accept this!!   Wait!!!   I hear a voice again!!!
 
 


 
THE
DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
SECTION 132
 
  51–57, Emma Smith is counseled (commanded) to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.
 
 
  51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to aprove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
  52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, areceive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.
  53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been afaithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
  54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and acleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be bdestroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law.
  55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an ahundredfold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of beternal lives in the eternal worlds.
  56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid aforgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to brejoice.


35 posted on 04/21/2012 8:24:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SeekAndFind

Gay Marriage and Polygyny raise the next valid question: Can three or more gay guys marry? Why not?


36 posted on 04/21/2012 8:26:13 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

‘Rick was right about a lot of things. He was the only candidate that understood that the family is the most fundamental level of social organization between people, and as such, the building block for any society, be it a village, city, state, nation, etc.’

He was right about many things. Had he prevailed in the primary I would have supported him. However, many - not all - but MANY of these things are battles which cannot be won in political or legislative arenas. Spiritual warfare and cultural warfare are very specific things, often to be fought out principally or specifically in the realms of the spirit or the culture. Not always, but often.

Mainly we need freedom. When we are free, we can make our impact. Freedom from imperious government, school propaganda, government propaganda, union propaganda, forced associations etc. Opt for freedom and we have the numbers to break the “NWO” chains which both of these corrupted parties are forging. Strive solely for our specific vision(s) of what is right, and all significant coalitions fall apart.

I think the time is coming when any freedom we enjoy will be seized rather than ‘permitted’. We must have the fortitude to realize that rendering unto God what is God’s will entail resistance to tyranny, regardless of which sock puppet wins this election.


37 posted on 04/21/2012 8:33:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ("I'm not willing to light my hair on fire to try and get support. I am who I am." - Willard M Romney)
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To: Vaduz
And we know shrinks become shrinks because they need the most help.

Like the marriage counselors who have been married 3-4 times advising people on how to save their marriages.

38 posted on 04/21/2012 8:36:34 AM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: Psalm 144
"However, many - not all - but MANY of these things are battles which cannot be won in political or legislative arenas."

First a POTUS, like any executive sets a moral tone for the organization he leads. Just look to Cartagena if you need an example. In as much as all things are political, leadership by example and standing firmly behind the bully pulpit can effect a lot of subtle changes in the hearts and minds of the American people. Reagan did it very effectively.

Legislatively, I think a lot can be done, not by passing new "morality" laws, but by repealing a lot of immoral ones.

39 posted on 04/21/2012 8:46:19 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CommerceComet

Indeed


40 posted on 04/21/2012 8:47:27 AM PDT by Vaduz
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