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To: Yashcheritsiy

Your contention is not well supported by the argument you’ve presented.

It is possible to want to conserve the economic liberty the Founders provided and thereby be a conservative. Nothing requires us to want to conserve all ( e.g.Slavery) of what the Founders gave us to be a conservative.


4 posted on 04/17/2012 2:15:38 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: muir_redwoods; Yashcheritsiy

The question: “Why should I not do as I please within the law, so long as I harm no-one else?” would, at all earlier times, have drawn one or both of the answers: “Because it offends God” or “Because you will become a social outcast”.

The first of these has no force for our new elites, who do not believe in God; the second is not only without force for them, it is without meaning. To exclude a person from one’s drawing-room because their personal pleasures are aberrant would be “discrimination”.
John Derbyshire, Posted by Harrius Magnus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2029535/posts?page=1#29


5 posted on 04/17/2012 2:28:53 PM PDT by donna (3rd largest workforce in the world=UK National Health Service (Chinese Army #1))
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To: muir_redwoods
It is possible to want to conserve the economic liberty the Founders provided and thereby be a conservative.

The Soviets in Russia around 20 years ago could also have been called "conservative." The problem is that the word conservative has no well-defined meaning.

It would be more accurate if conservatives defined themselves in more concrete terms, such as saying that they support Christian society and morals or free enterprise economics or foreign policy interventionism, instead of the more vague terms like "social conservative," "fiscal conservative," and "foreign policy conservative."

6 posted on 04/17/2012 2:31:41 PM PDT by WPaCon
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To: muir_redwoods
Your contention is not well supported by the argument you’ve presented.

You probably think so because you didn't well understand the argument I made.

It is possible to want to conserve the economic liberty the Founders provided and thereby be a conservative. Nothing requires us to want to conserve all ( e.g.Slavery) of what the Founders gave us to be a conservative.

Irrelevant. We didn't have slavery up until the late 1960s, which is what the numeric I provided calcs to. I realise that I didn't spend six paragraphs spelling out each and every last thing that I was implicitly referring to, but I rather thought the reader might use some common sense.

12 posted on 04/18/2012 10:12:29 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (Anybody but Obama and Romney)
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