There is another agenda, the 'need for skilled labor' is the cover.
You get it. IMHO, it's more than folly; its treason.
Unemployment, unencumbered by the enhancements to counting the civilian labor force (Clinton 1995):
Posted on 04/14/2012 8:14:05 AM PDT by jiggyboy
It's called outsourcing. American firms do it because foreign labor can be cheaper.
But now, one company is being accused of bringing those lower-paid workers to the U.S. illegally and that may be costing Americans jobs.
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Palmer says Infosys, the global high-tech giant, engaged in a systematic practice of visa fraud, a charge the company denies.
Palmer said the first thing to catch his attention was an employee that had been in the U.S. from India several times before.
"He came up to me and he was literally in tears," Palmer said. "He told me he was over here illegally and he didn't wanna be here. He was worried that he would get caught."
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Palmer says at first, most came over on H-1B visas. These visas are for people with specialized talents or a level of technical ability that can't be found among American workers.
When asked if all the people had some special expertise that couldn't be found in the U.S., Palmer said, "Absolutely not. Not even close. Many of them is what we call freshers. People that would just come over, whoever they could get to come over. Whoever got accepted for a visa."
Many of the people brought in, in fact, didn't know what they were doing at all, Palmer said.
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When the U.S. State Department began to limit the number of H-1B visas, Palmer says Infosys began using another type of visa, the B-1. The B-1 is meant for employees who are traveling to consult with associates, attend training or a convention. But Palmer says the employees were brought in not for meetings, but for full time jobs.
Palmer said the jobs were in "Everything from coding software to testing software to fixing software to installing."
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9YearLurker,
The NYSlimes is not a reliable source; it just is propagating a myth of the ‘good immigrant’. Indians come from a country that is socialistic and have no problem taking advantage or our largess. In fact, many families import their parents, put them on SSI, etc. and use them as free baby sitting service.
That the older the techie the better.
Indians have the second lowest level of food stamp use of any immigrant nationality (only those from the UK are lower):
http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011
I understand that someone you’ve worked with has chapped your hide by bringing over his parents and accessing some sort of federal mortgage program, but believe me, overall and statistically Indians actually are about as close to a “model minority” immigrant group as you can find. For example, they’ve definitely started and built more large and successful tech firms here than any other immigrant group.
There is another agenda, the 'need for skilled labor' is the cover.
H1-B and B-1 scammers there are workers in America.We have have 300 million people living here.It all comes down to greed and therefore all that matters is paying less of living wage to H1-B and B-1 workers, than they would to Americans. This country has as much greed and corruption as what Mexico has. All they care about is money.I am very glad I will not be around in another 30 years. This country by then will be worse off than what Mexico is.Obama is already bankrupting us deeper into debt each passing day.
The NYTimes is simply quoting US Census data.
Oh, there are so many fourth-generation immigrants from India here!
Anyone in Silicon Valley or in tech generally knows this is very much so. And I’ve said nothing about American workers at all. My only comparisons, other than those from India having higher incomes than our general population, have been with other immigrant groups.
Cute you ignore invalidation of the study! Fourth generation ‘in theory’
= american not new immigrant.
Boy, Yuri certainly called it!
Funny how I have the same experience. And since I’m female, they lash out very harshly against me (more so than my colleagues) . Sounds like we’re in the same field (I do server side tech support).
What the heck are you talking about?
I find it strange that more engineering isn’t done in Latin America. I’ve had engineers there for the past decade, and they’re all quite brilliant (and in a nearby time zone also).
“Excel and VBScript programming” — huh? That’s not programming.....
India is a socialist country but hardly in the welfare class level — they don’t have enough money for that.. Medical aid is mostly private except for the dirt poor etc.
No, but a large number of our unemployed "IT professionals" have most of their experience in older software like VBScript or NT 4.0 systems administration or NetWare or COBOL. Even for smart people, it gets hard to keep up after age 40 without constant study outside of work hours - and employers are well aware of that. That's why the prospect of an unending supply of smart, cheap, 25-year-old Indians remains so enticing.
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