Posted on 04/13/2012 5:40:09 AM PDT by Wpin
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a pro-life bill into law today to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.
House members passed the bill by a 37-22 vote and abortions after that time period would not be allowed except in very rare cases of medical emergency. The bill also requires abortion facilities to allow women to have an ultrasound of their unborn baby at least 24 hours prior to having the abortion. In many cases women change their minds about a planned abortion after seeing the images of their developing child.
Americans United for Life president Charmaine Yoest commended Brewer and called the bill a life-protecting bill designed to ensure that women dont suffer from the risks of a dangerous, late-term procedure. She said Arizona is the first state in the country to enact a late-term ban based on concerns over protecting womens health by demonstrating that abortion is not only bad for the unborn child, it is also bad for women.
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An eviction is for CAUSE. You have to do something to be evicted. You can't be evicted for being "inconvenient".
A woman had the authority over her body at the time she decided to participate in the activity that resulted in a pregnancy. But you seem to hold that an innocent third party must die for the misbehavior (or mistake, if you prefer) of another or two others.
I'll pray for your enlightenment, and the safety of any child you start.
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To clarify, I said “the misbehavior of another or two others”. That would include cases of rape and incest. The rapist’s misbehavior should not pass a death sentence on the other innocent party, nor should the willing or unwilling participation in incest.
"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.""No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."
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Equal Protection of the Law means ALL the unborn must be aborted.
Well stated; far better than my attempt.
I guess you’d rather have the status quo (up to day of birth) in your “all or nothing” approach.
You don’t attack the enemy and win wars by disarming, stripping buck naked, and walking into the battle zone talking about how committed you are to fighting and winning.
Which is exactly what this sort of legislation, pushed for years now by the Romney Republicans at National Right to Life, is.
Surrender of the moral, constitutional and legal arguments against abortion right out of the gate, in exchange for the ability to once again lie to conservatives for money and votes.
I’ll say it again, this sort of legislation is immoral, and completely unconstitutional. Anyone who supports it is in breach of the first most important duty associated with their oath of office.
No. This bill is the status quo. The Romney Republicans at National Right to Life have been playing this utterly unprincipled losers game for a decade now, and all it has accomplished is to further embed unconstitutional allowance of the killing of innocent children more deeply into our legal codes.
No. This bill is the status quo. The Romney Republicans at National Right to Life have been playing this utterly unprincipled losers game for a decade now, and all it has accomplished is to further embed unconstitutional allowance of the killing of innocent children more deeply into our legal codes.
This actually is not a bad approach. Let's get as many states as possible to limit abortion to 20 weeks. Then, take it down to 10 weeks. Then, work on getting it down to 1 month.
At that point, abortions are down to a trickle. Most abortions occur after the woman begins to show.
A baby is no more a part of a woman's body than you are a piece of furniture in your house just because you are inside it.
A baby is a being that has a certain state of dependency. The dependency lessens throughout childhood, but we don't abort 12-year-olds, do we? Then why should we kill 12-week olds? There is no material difference.
Can't believe abortion is being advocated on FR.
You don’t win wars by refusing to fight.
But let’s work those RINOs into this war-analogy, because I think there is a point of agreement between us here.
In this WW2 analogy: RINOs would happily have dropped a few bombs on Germany, declared total victory and then have gone home - leaving the status quo unchanged.
A real, lasting victory was won in AZ. We must make sure that this victory is not treated as the end of the war.
Except for the fact that it doesn’t work.
I agree. The rapist or perpetrator of incest may be the worst person in the world, visiting the most horrific experience on the woman, but none of that has any bearing on the life of the baby. Especially if it is adopted out. I have a cousin who was rescued from abortion after a rape, through adoption, and today is a contributing member of society.
No, when you sacrifice the first principles of the republic, and pass immoral unconstitutional legislation, you are surrendering, not winning.
The incremental approach has sure worked for the Left. They NEVER stop their incremental attacks on our liberties. They didn't get Obamacare in a day. It all started way back in the 60's with the employer insurance mandate.
And it's in the process of making a huge difference for 2nd Amendment liberties. Every year, states chip away at the restrictions the Left had put in place (also incrementally).
This war is more like the nuclear arms race, and less like D-Day.
Freedom-minded folks need to learn tactics in politics. Patience is the only way to win.
As someone born at 28 weeks, I can say that the baby is not her own body but a separate individual being who moves and acts on its own. At 28 weeks in many states a lot of babies could be aborted. However I was protected because I was out of the womb.
I just wish Brewer had not vetoed the Presidential eligibility (birth certificate) bill that had passed the AZ legislature several months ago. The AZ legislature is now reviving the bill in light of Arpaio’s report on Obama’s BC forgery. I consider this to be a big issue.
Your "all or nothing" approach will not roll back 39 years of immoral unconstitutional legislation and Supreme Court activity. Perhaps that's why the American Independent Party isn't very popular.
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