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Arizona Governor Signs Bill Banning Abortions After 20 Weeks
LifeNews.com ^ | April 12, 2012 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 04/13/2012 5:40:09 AM PDT by Wpin

Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer signed a pro-life bill into law today to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

House members passed the bill by a 37-22 vote and abortions after that time period would not be allowed except in very rare cases of medical emergency. The bill also requires abortion facilities to allow women to have an ultrasound of their unborn baby at least 24 hours prior to having the abortion. In many cases women change their minds about a planned abortion after seeing the images of their developing child.

Americans United for Life president Charmaine Yoest commended Brewer and called the bill “a life-protecting bill designed to ensure that women don’t suffer from the risks of a dangerous, late-term procedure.” She said Arizona is the first state in the country to enact a late-term ban based on concerns over protecting women’s health by demonstrating that abortion is not only bad for the unborn child, it is also bad for women.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: abortion; arizona; janbrewer; lateterm; prolife
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To: mvpel
Is a woman to have less authority over her own body than a landlord has over his property?

An eviction is for CAUSE. You have to do something to be evicted. You can't be evicted for being "inconvenient".

A woman had the authority over her body at the time she decided to participate in the activity that resulted in a pregnancy. But you seem to hold that an innocent third party must die for the misbehavior (or mistake, if you prefer) of another or two others.

I'll pray for your enlightenment, and the safety of any child you start.

21 posted on 04/13/2012 6:46:53 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: agere_contra; AuH2ORepublican; EternalVigilance; Cato in PA; MrB

regarding Sound Judgment:

Although prudence would be applied to any such judgment, the more difficult tasks, which distinguish a person as prudent, are those in which various goods have to be weighed against
each other ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prudence


22 posted on 04/13/2012 6:51:29 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning against MITT in CT.)
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To: JimRed

To clarify, I said “the misbehavior of another or two others”. That would include cases of rape and incest. The rapist’s misbehavior should not pass a death sentence on the other innocent party, nor should the willing or unwilling participation in incest.


23 posted on 04/13/2012 6:53:26 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Those legislators swore before God to support the Constitution, not the Court.

"No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law."

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."


24 posted on 04/13/2012 6:58:11 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: EternalVigilance

EV:
Equal Protection of the Law means ALL the unborn must be aborted.


25 posted on 04/13/2012 6:59:56 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning against MITT in CT.)
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To: Manic_Episode
Thankfully the law protects the tenants from having the landlords caretaker plunge scissors into their skulls and suck their brains out.

Well stated; far better than my attempt.

26 posted on 04/13/2012 7:02:24 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: EternalVigilance

I guess you’d rather have the status quo (up to day of birth) in your “all or nothing” approach.


27 posted on 04/13/2012 7:03:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: agere_contra

You don’t attack the enemy and win wars by disarming, stripping buck naked, and walking into the battle zone talking about how committed you are to fighting and winning.

Which is exactly what this sort of legislation, pushed for years now by the Romney Republicans at National Right to Life, is.

Surrender of the moral, constitutional and legal arguments against abortion right out of the gate, in exchange for the ability to once again lie to conservatives for money and votes.

I’ll say it again, this sort of legislation is immoral, and completely unconstitutional. Anyone who supports it is in breach of the first most important duty associated with their oath of office.


28 posted on 04/13/2012 7:05:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: MrB

No. This bill is the status quo. The Romney Republicans at National Right to Life have been playing this utterly unprincipled losers game for a decade now, and all it has accomplished is to further embed unconstitutional allowance of the killing of innocent children more deeply into our legal codes.


29 posted on 04/13/2012 7:08:07 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: MrB

No. This bill is the status quo. The Romney Republicans at National Right to Life have been playing this utterly unprincipled losers game for a decade now, and all it has accomplished is to further embed unconstitutional allowance of the killing of innocent children more deeply into our legal codes.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 7:08:21 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: Wpin
Arizona Governor Signs Bill Banning Abortions After 20 Weeks

This actually is not a bad approach. Let's get as many states as possible to limit abortion to 20 weeks. Then, take it down to 10 weeks. Then, work on getting it down to 1 month.

At that point, abortions are down to a trickle. Most abortions occur after the woman begins to show.

31 posted on 04/13/2012 7:16:23 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: mvpel
Is a woman to have less authority over her own body than a landlord has over his property?

A baby is no more a part of a woman's body than you are a piece of furniture in your house just because you are inside it.

A baby is a being that has a certain state of dependency. The dependency lessens throughout childhood, but we don't abort 12-year-olds, do we? Then why should we kill 12-week olds? There is no material difference.

Can't believe abortion is being advocated on FR.

32 posted on 04/13/2012 7:19:58 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: EternalVigilance

You don’t win wars by refusing to fight.

But let’s work those RINOs into this war-analogy, because I think there is a point of agreement between us here.

In this WW2 analogy: RINOs would happily have dropped a few bombs on Germany, declared total victory and then have gone home - leaving the status quo unchanged.

A real, lasting victory was won in AZ. We must make sure that this victory is not treated as the end of the war.


33 posted on 04/13/2012 7:21:01 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: backwoods-engineer

Except for the fact that it doesn’t work.


34 posted on 04/13/2012 7:21:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: JimRed
To clarify, I said “the misbehavior of another or two others”. That would include cases of rape and incest. The rapist’s misbehavior should not pass a death sentence on the other innocent party, nor should the willing or unwilling participation in incest.

I agree. The rapist or perpetrator of incest may be the worst person in the world, visiting the most horrific experience on the woman, but none of that has any bearing on the life of the baby. Especially if it is adopted out. I have a cousin who was rescued from abortion after a rape, through adoption, and today is a contributing member of society.

35 posted on 04/13/2012 7:24:06 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: agere_contra

No, when you sacrifice the first principles of the republic, and pass immoral unconstitutional legislation, you are surrendering, not winning.


36 posted on 04/13/2012 7:25:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can be a Romney Republican or you can be a conservative. You can't be both. Pick one.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Except for the fact that it doesn’t work.

The incremental approach has sure worked for the Left. They NEVER stop their incremental attacks on our liberties. They didn't get Obamacare in a day. It all started way back in the 60's with the employer insurance mandate.

And it's in the process of making a huge difference for 2nd Amendment liberties. Every year, states chip away at the restrictions the Left had put in place (also incrementally).

This war is more like the nuclear arms race, and less like D-Day.

Freedom-minded folks need to learn tactics in politics. Patience is the only way to win.

37 posted on 04/13/2012 7:29:55 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: mvpel
Is a woman to have less authority over her own body than a landlord has over his property?

As someone born at 28 weeks, I can say that the baby is not her own body but a separate individual being who moves and acts on its own. At 28 weeks in many states a lot of babies could be aborted. However I was protected because I was out of the womb.

38 posted on 04/13/2012 7:31:47 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: ScottinVA

I just wish Brewer had not vetoed the Presidential eligibility (birth certificate) bill that had passed the AZ legislature several months ago. The AZ legislature is now reviving the bill in light of Arpaio’s report on Obama’s BC forgery. I consider this to be a big issue.


39 posted on 04/13/2012 7:32:18 AM PDT by kabar
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To: EternalVigilance
No, when you sacrifice the first principles of the republic, and pass immoral unconstitutional legislation, you are surrendering, not winning.

Your "all or nothing" approach will not roll back 39 years of immoral unconstitutional legislation and Supreme Court activity. Perhaps that's why the American Independent Party isn't very popular.

40 posted on 04/13/2012 7:32:54 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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