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GOP-On-GOP Attacks Leave Orrin Hatch Fighting Mad['radical libertarians']
NPR ^ | 12 April 2012 | Howard Berkes

Posted on 04/12/2012 4:34:32 PM PDT by Theoria

Utah Republican Orrin Hatch has spent 36 years in the U.S. Senate, including stints as chairman of the Judiciary and Labor committees. He's in line to become chairman of the Finance Committee if Republicans gain control of the Senate in November.

But back home in Utah, Hatch's quest for a seventh term is not the cakewalk he had in the last five elections, in which he didn't even have to run in primaries.

In fact, the Hatch campaign has spent more than $5.7 million in the past 15 months just to make sure he'll survive the Utah Republican nominating convention on April 21.

"We've got to have new leaders in Washington if we're going to change the direction of this country," says Dan Liljenquist, a former Utah state senator and business consultant, considered the biggest threat to Hatch among nine GOP challengers.

"And the folks who led us into this mess are not the guys to get us out of it," adds Liljenquist, who was just 2 years old when Hatch was first elected to the Senate.

Throw Them All Out

That anti-incumbent sentiment lingers in Utah from the 2010 state Republican convention, when delegates ousted three-term Sen. Robert Bennett.

"The desire to lash out against incumbents — they're all corrupt, they're all stupid, they've all been there too long, throw them all out — that was the overwhelming emotion in 2010," Bennett recalls. "It was on the blogs. It was on Glenn Beck. It was on Rush Limbaugh — everywhere."

Bennett was accused by other Republicans of not being conservative enough because he voted for bank and corporate bailouts, the Toxic Assets Relief Program and other measures opposed by Tea Party groups and others.

The same forces are now targeting Hatch, including FreedomWorks, a superPAC that has spent more than $670,000 attacking Utah's senior senator.

"He's been there a long time, and with that length in service comes a lengthy record of expanding the scope and size of government," says Russ Walker, the national political director at FreedomWorks.

The group focused on anti-Hatch radio and TV ads and mailers in the months leading up to the state's 2,000 neighborhood caucuses on March 15.

"Utahns thought we sent a conservative to Washington," an announcer in one ad eerily intones. "But Orrin Hatch has risked your children's future by voting to raise our nation's debt limit 16 times. Orrin Hatch gave away your family's money for bailouts for Wall Street bankers."

Actually, FreedomWorks criticizes Hatch for some of the same votes cast by former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, a Republican from Texas, the group's chairman.

The Former Boxer Fights Back

"These people are not conservatives. They're not Republicans," Hatch angrily responds. "They're radical libertarians and I'm doggone offended by it."

Then Hatch, a former boxer, turns combative. "I despise these people, and I'm not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth."

But Hatch responded with fistfuls of cash instead of fisticuffs, hiring a full-time staff of 20, which first focused on the neighborhood caucuses and is now wooing, one by one, the 3,936 state convention delegates elected caucus night.

They wield enormous power in Utah's Republican nominating process. No candidate gets on the ballot — for the primary or general election — unless the delegates put him there. A candidate with 60 percent or more of the convention vote becomes the party nominee and avoids the June 26 primary.

"A year ago, people were saying that [Hatch] is not going to be able to survive the convention," recalls campaign manager Dave Hansen. "Now they're talking about if he's able to get the 60 percent to avoid a primary."

A Door-To-Door Defense

The difference came with the intense focus on the neighborhood caucuses. The Hatch campaign worked to identify delegate candidates in every precinct in the state, and then worked to boost turnout in those precincts. The goal was to keep Tea Party activists, strict constitutionalists and single-issue advocates from dominating the caucuses as they had in the past.

"If they were the same delegates it was going to be very difficult to get [Hatch] re-elected," Hansen says.

Then, a month before the caucuses, the top leadership of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued a letter to be read in every Mormon congregation in Utah.

"They are best served by a broad representation of Utah citizens," the letter said, referring to Democratic and Republican caucuses. "Those who attend play a critical role in selecting candidates for public office."

On caucus night, turnout was at least twice what it was in 2010, with more than 130,000 people attending, according to state Republican officials.

"Two years ago, there were about 15 people at my caucus," says Janna Richens, a graphic designer in West Jordan, Utah, and a state convention delegate. "This year, there were about 130 people at my caucus [and] probably 90 percent of them had never gone to a caucus before."

Hatch sees opportunity in the new convention delegates elected by the caucus newcomers. He and his challengers are reaching out to each and every one of them with phone calls, emails, mailers and invitations to town hall meetings, free restaurant meals and other events.

"They are relentless," says Marvin Haney, a delegate from Morgan, Utah, who owns a gift and apparel shop. "It's a contact sport almost. Continuous contact."

Hatch says it's all necessary.

"You need to let them know that you care," Hatch says. "You need to answer their questions. You need to let them know that they're very important people in your life."

Experience As A Plus

Both Hatch and Liljenquist agree on most issues, and both say that seniority is the biggest one.

"This race all comes down to that question, whether or not seniority is so important people feel forced to vote for the same people in the same system that they all complain about," Liljenquist says.

Hatch counters with a boxer's combativeness.

"You need tough old birds just like me," Hatch says, "who everybody knows and hopefully respects, who will say, 'That's enough! We're not taking any more of this crap!' "

And Hatch unabashedly plays the "M" card, as in Mitt Romney, the fellow Mormon and Republican presidential candidate who is the most popular politician in Mormon-dominated Utah.

"I believe that we can help save this country, especially if Mitt Romney gets there and I'm chairman of the Finance Committee and we have other Republican chairmen in both the Senate and the House," Hatch asserts. "I believe we can turn this country around."

In a recent debate, Hatch dropped Romney's name nine times. And Romney, the former CEO of the Salt Lake City Olympics, urges delegates in robo-calls to support Hatch.

Liljenquist gamely tries to strike back with his own more fleeting connection to Romney.

"I'm trained in the same way," Liljenquist suggests. "I have a law degree like Mitt does. I worked at Bain [& Co.] like Mitt has. I turned around companies like Mitt has."

Hatch and his campaign staff are confident the senator will survive the April 21 convention for his first primary election in 34 years. As of last week, Hatch had $3.24 million in cash on hand for the campaigning ahead.

FreedomWorks isn't the only outside group pouring money into Utah, both for and against Hatch. But Hatch has outspent them all by roughly 6 to 1.

Liljenquist has funneled $300,000 of his own money into the contest, but he is likely to attract significant anti-Hatch support if he and Hatch are primary opponents.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: danliljenquist; gop; hatch; statusquo; teaparty; utah
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Fighting words.
1 posted on 04/12/2012 4:34:44 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

RETIRE HATCH.... Too many times he has crossed the aisle....


2 posted on 04/12/2012 4:40:34 PM PDT by ptsal (E)
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To: ptsal

I agree!


3 posted on 04/12/2012 4:42:09 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Theoria
Utah is hopeless ~ both major contenders are citing Romney as some sort of paragon!

So who are these people who brought in a RINO to run against a RINO (using RINO the way the anti-Leftwingtards use it)?

Let's say the Republicans run the Senate and take over, and they do it without Lugar who is currently the Republican senator with the most seniority?

Does that mean Utah gets to take all the loot that would otherwise have gone to Indiana?

Might motivate me to go out there and vote numerous times ~ a task easily done BTW.

4 posted on 04/12/2012 4:44:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Theoria
Like so many of the other "old timers" in DC,they always play the "seniority card"(which means a bigger office and more lobbyist cash). BIG DEAL.....What expansion of government has Orrin ever stopped????
5 posted on 04/12/2012 4:46:54 PM PDT by radioone
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To: Theoria

So according to Senator Hatch, who voted to increase the debt limit 16 times, if Utah residents don’t line up and support him then they are not Conservative but radicals and probably infidels too. I think he supports the severly conservative.


6 posted on 04/12/2012 4:47:37 PM PDT by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: muawiyah

Lol, Romney isn’t a game changer? The Manchu
Senator from Indiana, doesn’t even live there.


7 posted on 04/12/2012 4:52:45 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: duffee
So according to Senator Hatch, who voted to increase the debt limit 16 times, if Utah residents don’t line up and support him then they are not Conservative but radicals and probably infidels too.

Hatch is just another Big Government loving liberal pretending to be a Republican. The fact that he's been bought and paid for by liberal Hollywood is a confirmation of that fact. That and he has a proven record of supporting Big Government.
8 posted on 04/12/2012 4:57:12 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Theoria
Romney is not anyone a good Conservative or Real Republican should vote for.

Interesting that both Hatch and the other guy compare themselves favorably to him.

9 posted on 04/12/2012 4:58:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Theoria
You better shut up, Orin, or the people of UT will dump you in a Primary just like they did their other Senaturd!!!

Your love affair with Teddy Kennedy and NPR reporters speaks way louder than your stupid puffery!!!

Oh! The red message came on when I tried to post this comment and told me that "Could not find anybody named 'Orin Hatch' so I guess he'll never see my courtesy ping. Darn it!!!

10 posted on 04/12/2012 5:00:47 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Negativity must die because it's self-fulfilling!!!)
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To: Theoria
About Senatorial seniority ~ that's how they divide the loot. At the moment Hatch and Lugar are even in seniority except Lugar takes precedence since Indiana's population is larger than Utah. (Bigger states take more loot, eh).

Now that's not much of a problem as long as the Democrats, where Hatch's fellow Momon, Harry Reid, rules the roost.

But change the game to one where the Republicans organize the Senate. Then that seniority deal becomes meaningful for Hatch and Lugar. In fact the folks behind Hatch know that with a Republican win if Hatch can become the Republican senator with the most seniority, gazillions of federal bucks will flow into Utah's coffers with ease!

Only Lugar stands in his way.

So what's this about Lugar not living in Utah? Hey, he doesn't need to!

Hatch and his handlers know all about Lugar. No doubt they've done all they can do (legally) to get rid of him.

11 posted on 04/12/2012 5:05:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Theoria

I don’t care who you are or how long you’ve been in Congress. Follow the express limits codified in the Constitution or you will be sent packing.

That isn’t just a “radical libertarian” notion either...


12 posted on 04/12/2012 5:05:33 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: radioone
Just like to note that seniority in the Senate is exceedingly meaningful.

A number of Senators through dint of longevity managed to make their otherwise barren wasteland states habitable ~

Arizona leaps to mind BTW,

and then there's Kennedy ~ he sucked down unimagineable billions to beef up Massachusetts already considerable education resources (both public and private).

Senator Douglas made sure the Lake MIchigan National Seashore was placed in Indiana and not Illinois.

Stennis ~ what can I say. Didn't he loot the Brooklyn Navy Yard? My goodness was that a bold move.

One can only imagine what the forces behind Hatch have in mind ~ maybe reversion of all federal lands to the state? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

13 posted on 04/12/2012 5:11:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dead Corpse

Who woke Hatch? Must be time to switch him from his winter to summer Bullet Proof Underwear>>>


14 posted on 04/12/2012 5:12:47 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (I don't know what the future holds, but I know who holds my future.,)
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To: muawiyah
Nah, I was just mocking Lugar for sacrificing himself by living out of hotels and not having a home in Indiana.

Your right about the cash flow, no doubt he will bring up or already has brought up the wonderful new NSA collection center in Utah, etc.

15 posted on 04/12/2012 5:15:34 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Theoria

Hatch would fit in well here with the way he thinks about libertarians.


16 posted on 04/12/2012 5:17:10 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Theoria

I’m not a term-limits supporter, on the whole. I don’t care how many years someone stays in the Senate long as he doesn’t betray his principles. I someone is doing a really good job, then by all means re-elect him.

But Orrin Hatch has steadily moved left over the years. He no longer seems to have any principles. It’s not how long you’ve been there Orrin. It’s your betrayal of the base.


17 posted on 04/12/2012 5:19:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ptsal

Utah Republican Orrin Hatch has spent 36 years in the U.S. Senate, <<<<

I rest my case your Honor!....


18 posted on 04/12/2012 5:21:15 PM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Theoria

Lugar has a major position in a family farm ~ I’d suppose he has a corncrib or something to sleep in. Frankly, getting all exercised about any Senator’s living quarters just wastes time ~ the Constitution doesn’t say they have to live in a house!


19 posted on 04/12/2012 5:21:42 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cicero

We probably need age limits for Senators. When these guys get 80 years of age they are NOT doing an honest day’s work.


20 posted on 04/12/2012 5:23:39 PM PDT by muawiyah
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