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The Perfect Storm for a 3rd Party run (Vanity)
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Posted on 04/12/2012 6:31:24 AM PDT by Mechanicos

If Romney wins the nomination it will set up the Perfect Political Storm for the Democrats to run a 3rd Party "conservative" to siphon enough votes to let Obama win.

Romney is so detestable to so many conservative and so similar to Obama on so many issues that for many there's no compelling reason to vote for him. Also, Obama and the Democrats have more then enough of a war chest as well as a complacent media to make a 3rd party run look worthwhile as well as feasible to the massive number of disenfranchised conservatives who reject Romney.

With the Media and Democrat war chest supporting a 3rd Party type run they can bleed off enough to let Obama win with as little as a 3rd... To make it work they would need a GOP candidate so disliked and so similar to the Democrat candidate it would make the risk appear worthwhile to vote for the 3rd party.

As it stands Romney is NOT the Nominee and may not be the Nominee if enough conservatives continue to vote against him in the remaining primaries. He has about 535 committed delegates now ONLY. That's a long way from the 1444 first vote he needs. And the Paul camp probably has enough stealth delegates to prevent Romney from winning the first vote if he does not have enough committed delegates by convention time.

Its a long shot but we may still be able to prevent the Democrats and Media from forcing Romney on us. Because if they succeed there is a real possibility a 3rd party will siphon off enough to let Obama win again.


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This is vanity. And a lot of Guessing. So go easy.
1 posted on 04/12/2012 6:31:29 AM PDT by Mechanicos
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To: Mechanicos

Ain’t gonna happen.
Too expensive in today’s world of media, media, media.
The Super Pacs control everything, now................


2 posted on 04/12/2012 6:33:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Mechanicos

Ross Perot proved the utility of third parties, to Democrats.


3 posted on 04/12/2012 6:35:13 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Mechanicos

No “Liberal Conspiracy” needed - the Pubbies are doing it to themselves quite effectively —

“None of the Above” will be the candidate of choice for many conservatives suffering from ‘hold-your-nose’ exhaustion....


4 posted on 04/12/2012 6:35:30 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Mechanicos

http://www.goodeforpresident2012.com/


5 posted on 04/12/2012 6:36:43 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: Mechanicos

Doug Schoen (Sp?) was on Hannity about a month ago espousing this. He is for a Huntsman candidacy and is already working toward it. Schoen is a “D”, but he’s not an Obama fan, supposedly.

He talked of Huntsman running as an independent third party and thought that he could actually siphon off enough Obama voters to make a true run at it. Hannity tried to convince him that this was handing the election to Obama, but Schoen didn’t think so.

With a lot of conservatives staying home, if Huntsman runs, we are GUARANTEED another 4 years of Obama.


6 posted on 04/12/2012 6:38:09 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Mechanicos

I would see a republican third party run, pass the kool aid.


7 posted on 04/12/2012 6:38:09 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Mechanicos

Who would it be? If Ron Paul decided to do this, his son’s career in the Republican party would be effectively over. Even if Ron Paul ran, he could siphon off a lot of the anti war vote that would be voting for Obama. I just don’t see who the credible candidate it is they could get to run third party that would do it knowing they are re-electing Obama.


8 posted on 04/12/2012 6:38:09 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Anti-Bubba182

“Ross Perot proved the utility of third parties, to Democrats.”

Exactly what I thought when I read this.


9 posted on 04/12/2012 6:40:59 AM PDT by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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To: Mechanicos

I expect the real 3rd-party momentum will be AFTER the election, after Romney loses. The GOP will fully split in two, between the establishment and the conservative, Tea party side.


10 posted on 04/12/2012 6:40:59 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Uncle Ike

” - - - “None of the Above” will be the candidate of choice for many conservatives suffering from ‘hold-your-nose’ exhaustion.... “

Yep. Well said.

We are FINALLY taking Nancy Reagan’s advice: “JUST SAY NO!”


11 posted on 04/12/2012 6:42:33 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
I just don’t see who the credible candidate it is they could get to run third party that would do it knowing they are re-electing Obama.

Actually, the GOP is re-electing Obama by nominating Romney. No third-party presence in November overrides the fact this is the GOP's self-inflicted wound. It didn't have to be this way.

12 posted on 04/12/2012 6:42:47 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Mechanicos

Waste of bandwidth. Hope you are a monthly donor!


13 posted on 04/12/2012 6:43:04 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I don’t know yet. They can probably create somebody or pump up one of the obscure ones. I think Perot did not show on the radar till late in the game...


14 posted on 04/12/2012 6:43:04 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: Mechanicos
If Romney wins the nomination it will set up the Perfect Political Storm for the Democrats to run a 3rd Party "conservative" to siphon enough votes to let Obama win.

It's not even needed. Romney is going to lose this one big with or without "help." And the GOP E has wanted it this way all along.

15 posted on 04/12/2012 6:44:50 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Mechanicos

You’re absolutely right. Ron Paul has already set up a devotee named Gary Johnson, former Governor of New Mexico to run against Romney as an economic conservative. Now ask yourself: Did Paul attack Romney’s other opponents so viciously and fanatically, yet leave Romney alone because ...

1) Romney was the most firmly opposed to socialism, or

2) With Romney as the nominee, Johnson will be able to siphon more disgruntled conservatives away?


16 posted on 04/12/2012 6:44:55 AM PDT by dangus
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To: SubMareener

Think so? Look at the other responses.


17 posted on 04/12/2012 6:46:53 AM PDT by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Ron Paul is 76 years old. The notion that he ever intended to be president is a sick joke. He was in there purely to see that a socialist won the Republican nominee, so that the Libertarian Party would emerge as a viable alternative to Democrats and Republicans. But he won’t be the Libertarian candidate; it’ll be Gary Johnson.


18 posted on 04/12/2012 6:47:25 AM PDT by dangus
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To: greene66; Mechanicos
The GOP will fully split in two, between the establishment and the conservative, Tea party side.

Which will be ironic for the ITYS conservatives. Because the task for the next candidates opposing the incumbents will be for a moderate to move right and regain the conservatives using GOP resources, or for a conservative to attempt to pull their enemies back to the right using his own resources. If that kind of synchronized swimming can't happen this year against Obama, then it sure can't happen with blood in the water following a 2012 massacre.

19 posted on 04/12/2012 6:52:00 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: dangus

” 2) With Romney as the nominee, Johnson will be able to siphon more disgruntled conservatives away? “

Ya know, it occurs to me that this whole discussion is predicated on the assumtion that Conservatives are too damn dumb to see through any “Straw Man in a Trojan Horse” strategy...

If that is, indeed, the case, then we deserve to lose - in fact, we’re too damn dumb to be voting, at all...


20 posted on 04/12/2012 6:52:08 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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