Posted on 04/10/2012 9:42:53 AM PDT by lowbridge
The crazed gunman who wounded four Brooklyn cops was reaching for another rifle loaded with more powerful, armor-piercing bullets to inflict deadly injuries just before he was stopped, officials said yesterday.
“If he would have been able to grab that gun, this would have been a lot more tragic. It would have been in God’s hands,” said a police official familiar with the case.
“It’s apparent [the suspect] wanted to shoot it out with cops and go out in a blaze of glory.’’
Cops said the ammo from suspect Nakwon Foxworth’s sawed-off military assault weapon would have easily pierced the Kevlar shield that hero Detective Kenneth Ayala used to protect his comrades and himself from the perp’s initial 12-bullet barrage from a 9mm revolver.
The more powerful bullets also would have gone through the officers’ vests, police said.
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Thank goodness those evil, cop-killing .223 bullets are not available to the general public or else, there’d be cop-killings ALL THE TIME!
...er...do what?...at Walmart...and Dick’s Sporting Goods?
A couple of years ago, CDNN was selling the Mateba at what seemed like good prices.
If I could have afforded one, I would have bought it just for an investment.
***The crazed gunman, Nakwon Foxworth, used the common, easily obtained, Webley-Fosbery, 9mm semi-automatic revolver, popular with criminals and gang-bangers,***
Then again the perp may have been using a DARDIK automatic magazine fed revolver using three sided trounds. Yes, trounds.
***Have you ever “seen” a semi-auto revolver?
NO, I did not think so.***
Ever been to the Wannamacher Tulsa Gun Show? You will see more guns of ALL TYPES than you’ve ever seen!
Here is my pistol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCAkkncfJ9Y
Only difference is my pistol has a 3-X fixed power Burris Scope. The scope in the video has a 5-X variable Burris Scope.
The scope on mine is shorter, but both scopes use “long eye relief” so you need not be near the scope to sight.
Very very effective weapon. Very high velocity, very accurate, very lethal.
I beg to differ with you. The British built one on a Webley-Fosbery frame. You can see Sean Connery use it in ZARDOZ.
The Maltese Falcon, too:
Bogart: Thanks, Tom. What happened?
Ward Bond: Got him right through the pump with this.
Bogart: It's a Webley.
Ward Bond: English, ain't it?
Bogart: A Webley-Fosbery .45 automatic, 8-shot. They don't make 'em anymore.
Nope, I have not. I lived in OK for 7 years (in Piedmont). Went through Tulsa often, but never went to the gun show.
Only reason I knew it was a BDM is that I considered getting one 20 years ago when they first came out. Ended up getting a second Hi-Power as a spare.
9mm=.355” and includes 9mmParabellum/luger, 380 acp and 357 SIG, as well as a plethora of older obsolete cartridges. .357 is 38 cal, and 38 SW, long and short colt etc, 357 mag and max and others wear that bullet diameter.
9mm makarov is an oddball at .366”(or so... pistol dependent).
So, no, .357 is NOT 9mm caliber.
SAAMI and CIP state the actual measurements for US and International purposes of uniformity etc.
You proved my point. Thanks.
***Went through Tulsa often, but never went to the gun show.***
Used to be the second biggest in the nation. Now I think it is the biggest. Over 3000 tables. Both the upper and lower areas of the IPE building where the GOLDEN DRILLER stands.
Enough guns to give the libs the vapors.
I used to go to a Tulsa gun show maybe once a year. I don’t recall who the sponsor was but it took all day to go through and even then you couldn’t linger at any table too long.
Yep. Dosen’t everyone know that there are several editions of semi-auto revolvers? The Mateba being the most recent attempt at marketing the idea.
Webley made one, as did a few others mainly in the early/mid 20th century.
I am waiting for soneone to tell us that a cut barreled Mini-14 won’t function....oh wait, someone already has. oops.
Also, it is not unfeasible that indeed at 9mm revolver could unleash a “salvo” of 12 rounds ratehr quickly- ever watch Jerry Miculek and his SW 25 45 ACP with full moon clips? He shoots and reloads faster than most competitors with 1911s etc. Holds many speed and accuracy records with a revolver he makes talk like a mini-gun....
And finally, almost all centerfire rifle cartridges will defeat body armor (like the stuff cops and civilians use (threat level 2A, 3 or 3A with or w/o trauma plates) espc. at close to medium range.
Concealable armor defeats pistol shotgun and maybe sub-gun (pistol) rounds.
leve 4 is where rifle bullets are stopped, but often with quite aresultant boo-boo from teh energy transfer.
The 9.0678 mm value is actually based on a legally non-existant unit that would be an “international inch.” (ie 25.40 mm = 1 int inch)
But the real inch is 12th of a U.S. Survey Foot (the only legally useable foot), which is 0.30480061 meters, thus 25.400051 mm = 1 inch, so .357 = 9.067818 mm.
I give up.
The author of the article is still a total idiot.
Thank you!!! I love learning new things. I had seen the term survey foot before, but did not know why. Now I do. I just finished reading the NIST website where I found that it came about from the 1866 law as I have copied and pasted below for those interested:
The U.S. Metric Law of 1866 gave the relationship 1 m = 39.37 in (in is the unit symbol for the inch). From 1893 until 1959, the yard was defined as being exactly equal to (3600/3937) m, and thus the foot was defined as being exactly equal to (1200/3937) m.
In 1959 the definition of the yard was changed to bring the U.S. yard and the yard used in other countries into agreement; see Ref. [7: FR 1959]. Since then the yard has been defined as exactly equal to 0.9144 m, and thus the foot has been defined as exactly equal to 0.3048 m. At the same time it was decided that any data expressed in feet derived from geodetic surveys within the United States would continue to bear the relationship as defined in 1893, namely, 1 ft = (1200/3937) m (ft is the unit symbol for the foot). The name of this foot is “U.S. survey foot,” while the name of the new foot defined in 1959 is “international foot.” The two are related to each other through the expression 1 international foot = 0.999 998 U.S. survey foot exactly.
Sawing off the barrel of a Mini-14 could theoretically affect functioning. It would change the pressure curve by at least some amount.
Probably would still work but it is at least something to consider, even if it was legal.
Let’s add to the confusion:
“Rifled bores may be described by the bore diameter (the diameter across the lands or high points in the rifling), or by groove diameter (the diameter across the grooves or low points in the rifling). Differences in naming conventions for cartridges can cause confusion; for example, the projectiles of the .303 British are actually slightly larger in diameter than the projectiles of the .308 Winchester, because the “.303” refers to the bore diameter in inches, while the “.308” refers to the groove diameter in inches (7.70 mm and 7.82 mm, respectively).”
“Na-kwon” sounds like maybe Korean, or Cantonese. Sometimes they go bad too/s;)
Now, now. Mini 14s are fine rifles and get a bad rap for accuracy from a lot of Internet warrriors (not saying you’re one). It wasn’t designed to be a bench rest tack driver but a dependable, general purpose rifle firing our present small arms military cartridge.
The one that I had, tragically lost in a canoeing accident of course, shot on par with my AK, also sadly lost in the same incident.
2 in groups at 100 yds with iron sights. Got it for a song, sung out of tune, from a “marksman” that literally couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn from inside. He couldn’t shoot an 18 in group with it.
Best description I’ve heard of the Mini is “The American AK 47.
:-)
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