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Hard to find truth in Zimmerman’s call to police

Posted on 04/01/2012 11:27:17 AM PDT by Java4Jay

I’m having great difficulty locating the original full version of Zimmerman’s call to police, one that is not enhanced to make wind noise sound like a racial slur.


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To: taxcontrol

2 points. I believe that Zimmerman was not on patrol but returning from an errand which is neither here nor there.
Second, he didn’t call 911 but the non-emergency number. Aside from that your facts are in agreement with the evidence as we know it.


121 posted on 04/01/2012 1:27:07 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Cboldt
But here, by the standards of the profession, there isn't even enough evidence to analyze. By the expert's own standards, it's inappropriate to bring this analytical tool to bear on the question.

I think we may have been talking about two different aspects. I was only talking about the 48% match. I think you may be talking about the 20 words standard, which the sample recording did not meet, and I totally agree, of course - not that facts require my agreement.

122 posted on 04/01/2012 1:29:07 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: taxcontrol
(zimmerman) returned towards his vehicle when he was attacked and viciously beaten by a punk kid who tried to take his firearm from him.

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Please provide a link to official docs or eyewitness statements that say this. Thank you.

123 posted on 04/01/2012 1:29:37 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Rooivalk

It is you who is in denial.

http://macsmind.com/wordpress/2012/03/voice-expert-hired-by-martin-family-attorneys-cant-confirm-or-deny-that-voice-calling-for-help-on-911-tape-isnt-zimmerman/

I also never claimed I know more than the investigator. I said the PROSECUTOR (who declined to file charges) has more knowledge about the law than the investigator. Learn to read


124 posted on 04/01/2012 1:32:47 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Rooivalk

“The fact that the lead homicide investigator on this case recommended that charges be filed against Zimmerman is all that I need to hear.

What else is there to say? “

You DO realize that many cops and DAs are spring-loaded to press charges in a shooting, don’t you?

And you DO realize that no charges have been filed, DON’T you?


125 posted on 04/01/2012 1:33:35 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: 101stAirborneVet

I don’t stand by these analyses, not my opinion. A 48% match to Zimmerman and no test done to Martin is inconclusive.


126 posted on 04/01/2012 1:34:07 PM PDT by Java4Jay (The evils of government are directly proportional to the tolerance of the people.)
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To: Cboldt
Maybe you need to take a look at the fact that charges were stopped for NO REASON from going forward to issue an arrest warrant for Zimmerman by something to do with Zimmerman's father being a powerful judge in the Florida legal system. And it seems Zimmerman's father has pulled strings before for his son

You did know that his father was a judge, right?

George Zimmerman's Father is a Judge

Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?

"...According to a records search on George Zimmerman, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that’s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer …
127 posted on 04/01/2012 1:37:12 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Java4Jay
Sorry, that didn't really come out right! That one could come to that conclusion...
128 posted on 04/01/2012 1:38:05 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Clintonfatigued
I'm so glad you cleared up the whole situation for us.......


129 posted on 04/01/2012 1:41:09 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Rooivalk
-- Maybe you need to take a look at the fact that charges were stopped for NO REASON from going forward to issue an arrest warrant for Zimmerman by something to do with Zimmerman's father being a powerful judge in the Florida legal system. --

Maybe I did, and choose to not discuss it with you.

130 posted on 04/01/2012 1:41:37 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Rooivalk

Maybe you need to take a look at the fact that charges were stopped for NO REASON from going forward

You are a first class moron. Charges were not “stopped”. THERE WERE NO CHARGES because the prosecutor (the legal expert) didn’t feel there was enough evidence. If you have any proof Zimmerman’s father “pulled strings” post a link to it. Crickets.


131 posted on 04/01/2012 1:42:49 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Mr Rogers
And you DO realize that no charges have been filed, DON’T you?

And you do realize that Zimmerman's father is a powerful judge with a history of getting Zimmerman out of scrapes with the law?

Were strings pulled?

"....According to a records search on George, he was previously arrested for domestic violence, resisting an officer without violence and most shockingly, resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison. All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun? Maybe that’s a question Robert Zimmerman should answer …"
132 posted on 04/01/2012 1:43:05 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Java4Jay

Exactly.

Had TM gotten the gun away from Zimmerman and killed him there’d be zero national news. Just another black perp. Who cares? Non-Blacks don’t make national news when killed by blacks.


133 posted on 04/01/2012 1:45:31 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: trappedincanuckistan
You are a first class moron. Charges were not “stopped”. THERE WERE NO CHARGES because the prosecutor (the legal expert) didn’t feel there was enough evidence. If you have any proof Zimmerman’s father “pulled strings” post a link to it. Crickets.

The game is young. Lets see what tune you sing when more evidence is revealed that puts Zimmerman in handcuffs. Just be patient my friend as evidence is revealed drip by drip.

Seeing Zimmerman do the perp walk will break your heart
134 posted on 04/01/2012 1:46:58 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk
Roovialk,

Why are your posts full of deceptions and conjecture?

the fact that charges were stopped for NO REASON from going forward to issue an arrest warrant for Zimmerman by something to do with Zimmerman's father being a powerful judge in the Florida legal system

Untrue. First, charges weren't "stopped" in the way you're trying to imply that the homicide detective "wanted to charge Zimmerman" - I've completely annihilated your theory on this in a post above. Second, Zimmerman's father was a magistrate in Virginia, and retired many years ago. So no, he wasn't a judge in the "Florida legal system". There, now that's disproven, too.

Did George Zimmerman have help from his father, a retired judge, in clearing his name in three separate arrests?

No, his cases went just like they all do. Compare his arrests and the resolutions of those arrests to others, they were handled equally. He received no special treatment.

resisting an officer with violence — a felony charge that surely could have landed him in prison

The court reduced the charge to a misdemeanor and gave him pretrial diversion. You can find LOTS of extremely similar cases with identical resolutions if you search the court records for the same county.

All three of those arrests, however, were mysteriously closed with no semblance of charges for the Florida resident. So how was someone with a violent past including that of battery against an officer able to carry a 9 mm handgun?

There's nothing "mysterious" about it. His cases were handled THE SAME AS THOUSANDS OF OTHER CASES you can find simply by searching the database for the SAME COUNTY. And, since he was never convicted OF ANYTHING, he did not lose his concealed carry permit.

So, now that every single argument you posted has been thoroughly destroyed, would you PLEASE just admit that you are falling in on racial lines on this one? I'd have so much respect for you if you said "Dammit, another black kid is dead, and I'm mad as Hell, and I wish someone would pay for it". That would be intellectually honest and I, for one, would honor your feelings on it.

But to post all this conjecture and deception actually TAKES AWAY from any anger you have about the real issue: the dead kid and how you feel about it.

135 posted on 04/01/2012 1:50:46 PM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: Rooivalk
This is a pack of lies by this rat Zimmerman as he sees his story breaking down and is now attempting to "explain" shooting an unarmed person

What else is there to say?

Since Zimmerman is in hiding and there has been no word from him since his contact with the police, I would say that your accusation is full of crap.......

136 posted on 04/01/2012 1:50:57 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (No matter what you post here, someone's going to get pissed off......)
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To: TigerClaws
More BS as you try to justify the killing of this kid. The facts still remain that Zimmerman responded to a fist fight by using a gun. He was never attacked by anything more than than fisticuffs. No knife. No chain. No stick. No nothing that would account for drawing a gun.

Zimmerman was getting his a$$ kicked and in fear of losing against a skinny kid decided to kill him.
137 posted on 04/01/2012 1:52:07 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk

“Just be patient my friend as evidence is revealed drip by drip.”

The problem for you is that what is dripping out backs Zimmerman’s story up, or is found to be pure media/race baiter propaganda.

CNN “enhancing” audio
ABC “doctoring” video
NBC “editing” phone calls
Martin family hiring “expert” voice analysts
Jesse Jackson claiming Martin was shot in the back of the head

on and on and on.........


138 posted on 04/01/2012 1:53:09 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: Hot Tabasco
I would say that your accusation is full of crap......

Correction. It is Zimmerman who is full of crap and who spun this story knowing that the other party who was there couldn't refute what he said because he killed him
139 posted on 04/01/2012 1:54:47 PM PDT by Rooivalk
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To: Rooivalk
And you do realize that Zimmerman's father is a powerful judge

You lose! He's a retired judge from Virginia who lives in a house Zestimated to be worth $160,500, which is $400 more than they bought it for in 2002. Interestingly, George M is among the 2002 grantees.

140 posted on 04/01/2012 1:55:40 PM PDT by cynwoody
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