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Allen West Calls Trayvon Martin Shooting an ‘Outrage’ and Endorses Federal Investigation
The Blaze ^ | March 22, 2012 | Mytheos Holt

Posted on 03/22/2012 9:03:25 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Ever since his CPAC Keynote Address in 2010, Rep. Allen West (R-FL) has been one of the gold standards of modern American political conservatism. He has also been widely hailed as a political model for conservative African American politicians. And now, following recent revelations surrounding the highly suspicious shooting of Trayvon Martin, Rep. West has joined a growing bipartisan consensus calling for the case to be reopened, possibly even with Federal assistance. West’s statement, put out today by Talking Points Memo, resonates with controlled fury (emphasis added):

itself in Sanford, Florida involving the shooting of 17-year-old Treyvon Martin. First of all, if all that has been reported is accurate, the Sanford Police Chief should be relieved of his duties due to what appears to be a mishandling of this shooting in its early stages. The US Navy SEALS identified Osama Bin Laden within hours, while this young man laid on a morgue slab for three days. The shooter, Mr Zimmerman, should have been held in custody and certainly should not be walking free, still having a concealed weapons carry permit. From my reading, it seems this young man was pursued and there was no probable cause to engage him, certainly not pursue and shoot him….against the direction of the 911 responder. Let’s all be appalled at this instance not because of race, but because a young American man has lost his life, seemingly, for no reason. I have signed a letter supporting a DOJ investigation. I am not heading to Sanford to shout and scream, because we need the responsible entities and agencies to handle this situation from this point without media bias or undue political influences. This is an outrage.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: 2014election; 2016election; allenwest; blackkk; election2014; election2016; florida; georgezimmerman; georgia; mytheosholt; niceshooting; normwolfinger; selfdefense; standyourground; trayvon; trayvonmartin
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To: 101stAirborneVet

Amen, sir, Amen.

I’m so frustrated over this. I may be getting close to outright anger.

This is truly a sign of our country unraveling and being torn apart.

God help us all.


181 posted on 03/23/2012 12:29:19 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: cynwoody

What a stupid ****ing post.

Jesus Christ.


182 posted on 03/23/2012 12:30:22 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: SoldierDad; Jonty30
To allow a situation, in which there was no need to escalate it to the level of a confrontation in the first place, to deteriorate to the point where he felt the need to use his firearm was, at the least, ill-advised.

For all you know, Zimmerman was simply following Martin so when the cops responded on scene, he could tell them where Martin was or was last seen. If Zimmerman was suddenly attacked by Martin, how would Zimmerman have known in advance this would occur simply because he was following someone?

183 posted on 03/23/2012 12:31:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: TigersEye
No, sorry. Not true. I still am of the opinion that all the facts have not been obtained, and that an independent investigation is warranted to make sure those facts are accurate. I'm still unconvinced that Zimmerman acted in self-defense given the possibility that the initiation of the confrontation came from his own behavior. So, where have I contradicted myself? Never mind. Conversing with you has been akin to trying to speak to a brick wall.

Obtuse: 1. not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull . 2. not sharp, acute, or pointed; blunt in form. 3. (of a leaf, petal, etc.) rounded

' I'll leave you with the advice that you seek help.

184 posted on 03/23/2012 12:31:19 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad
I still am of the opinion that all the facts have not been obtained

Opinion based on what?

185 posted on 03/23/2012 12:33:05 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: chris37
I guaran-damn-tee you . . . .

Tell your hyperbole to all those who have been released from prison after years of being incarcerated for crimes they were innocent of. You, sir, have not the power to guarantee anything about this case or any other case.

186 posted on 03/23/2012 12:34:22 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: dragnet2

Probably MSNBC and CNN conservative hating 24/7 networks. Sick of all of the Obama worshipers.


187 posted on 03/23/2012 12:35:15 AM PDT by MARKUSPRIME
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To: SoldierDad
Actually, you are the one who is emotional and histerical and blinded. Facts? Such as, the 17 year old was not engaged in any criminal behavior? So, neither was Mr Zimmerman. Fact? Mr. Zimmerman was part of the neighborhood watch, he noticed an unknown individual in his neighborhood wandering in the rain, and called the police. No problem so far. Facts? Such as Zimmerman, on the 911 logs, stated he was following the 17 year old (by way of leaving his truck). So? He was trying to keep an eye on the suspicious person in his neighborhood until the police arrived. Again, no problem. Facts? Such as the police dispatch told Zimmerman he did NOT need to follow the 17 year old? Fact? Zimmerman's response was OK and he stopped pursuing. Are those the FACTS you're speaking of? Yes, as a matter of FACT, those are the FACTS I was speaking of (along with the facts I included which you so conveniently omitted). Or, do you have some facts that no one else in the world has or have reported which definitively demonstrated who initiated the confrontation? No, don't have that info. But you're certainly doing your best to try and convince yourself and others with selective "facts" that Zimmerman is the guilty party. Logically, the COMPLETE facts don't support your contention.

As to my hysteria level - I leave that to the judgment of others on the forum.

188 posted on 03/23/2012 12:35:15 AM PDT by Shethink13
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To: 101stAirborneVet

So far, nobody has presented any evidence the kid is a criminal. Since it’s been about a week, I think it’s safe to say that he wad simply a kid who had been walking home to his father’s house after buying his goods at the local convenience store and nothing more.


189 posted on 03/23/2012 12:35:32 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: dragnet2

You haven’t been paying attention or keeping up?


190 posted on 03/23/2012 12:35:32 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: cynwoody
Col. West for VP!

Isn't that interesting?.? Prior to this request to have Holder's Homies to tale over this investigation, I felt much the same, or even wished for him to run for President.

Now I feel that he disqualified himself by potentially inflaming a racially charged incident by asking for a Federal investigation before the State be allowed to prove themselves honorable and competent Vs. corrupt / incompetent in the investigation first.

191 posted on 03/23/2012 12:37:28 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: SoldierDad

Oh, I’m far beyond you.

Go ahead and answer the half dozen questions I’ve ask.


192 posted on 03/23/2012 12:37:28 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoldierDad
post #2

Local authorities did a lousy job of investigating the incident, and there needs to be a thorough and unbiased investigation.

A statement of absolute certainty directly implying your knowledge of the facts.

post #142

As I stated, there’s conflicting information. What is accurate and what is not needs to be determined.

A statement indicating no certain knowledge of the facts.

Yep, you contradicted yourself completely. Undoubtedly you are too obtuse, dense and need to much help to understand it but there it is in black and white.

193 posted on 03/23/2012 12:39:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Jonty30
So far, nobody has presented any evidence the kid is a criminal.

Witness have said Martin was on top, beating Z.

Z had injuries/bleeding from the nose and head. If Martin initiated the physical violence, is that not criminal?

194 posted on 03/23/2012 12:39:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoldierDad
Conversing with you has been akin to trying to speak to a brick wall.

As I'm sure your therapist has told you that is a wonderful example of projection.

195 posted on 03/23/2012 12:41:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Shethink13

I’ve seen over the course of the past 7 years probably hundreds of unknown individuals walking, biking, skateboarding, rollerblading, driving, etc, etc, through my neighborhood. No one has yet shot and killed a single one. I live in a neighborhood which is predominately white. We’ve had people of all colors, races, creeds, etc that have gone up and down our street. Yet, no one’s been beaten up, shot, nor killed. It is a poor argument that it is okay to stalk, and then shoot someone for the simple reason of being somemone who isn’t know to the person doing the shooting. Here’s some facts you should consider. There is a dead 17 year old. There has been no evidence presented which supports the contention that the 17 year was doing or had done or was going to do anything illegal. Are you suggesting that you are fine with these facts?


196 posted on 03/23/2012 12:42:05 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: TigersEye

Hmmm. Projection. Funny you should mention that.


197 posted on 03/23/2012 12:43:12 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: SoldierDad

“””Reports I’ve heard indicated that the firearm was NOT taken and processed.”””

You haven’t been paying attention or keeping up?
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http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Twin%20Lakes%20Shooting%20Initial%20Report.pdf

See page 4 of 4.

It clearly stated the weapon was “Collected and placed into evidence

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Please, try and keep up Mr. Dad


198 posted on 03/23/2012 12:43:44 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Based on my dealings with people, including quite a few sketchies, if you’re peaceful, they will be peaceful. While nothing is guaranteed, I have difficulty with the idea that Zimmerman was perfectly peaceful in his approach and Martin just simply spazzed out and started swinging.

That is not credible, imo.


199 posted on 03/23/2012 12:46:10 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SoldierDad

Funny you should ignore it. And the dozen questions on this thread you are ignoring in favor of replying to me. LOL


200 posted on 03/23/2012 12:46:24 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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