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Can a Genuine Muslim Be Loyal to America?

Posted on 03/21/2012 9:49:13 AM PDT by pinochet

America commits a great injustice to Muslims when it offers them citizenship, without explaining to them the obligations that America requires from its citizens, and the values on which America was founded.

America is a nation that was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, and the laws and culture of America reflects a Judeo-Christian ethic. The Muslim Quran requires Muslims to wage jihad on Christians and Jews, and not to accept them as friends.

We need to change the oath of citizenship, so that immigrant Muslims can understand the obligations and responsibilities that America requires from its citizens. The oath of citizenship should require all citizens to declare in public, that they put the American constitution ahead of Allah, the Prophet Mohammed, and the Holy Quran. This will ensure that genuine Muslims do not become citizens. While Muslims are allowed to lie in order to advance Islamic interests, no genuine Muslim would ever publicly declare that he puts America ahead of Allah, Mohammed, and the Quran.

A Muslim who believes in Islam, the same way in which Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama believe in Christianity, is not a real Muslim, and therefore, not a threat to America. Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama do not believe in the Bible, and such a hypothetical Muslim would not believe in the Quran. But any Muslim who believes in the Quran, and considers the crazy Prophet Mohammed as a role model, is a real threat to America.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: citizenship; immigration; islam; quran; vanity
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There is no doubt that the Muslim who murdered innocent Jews in France, Mohammed Merah, was putting his religious beliefs into practice. The Quran requires him to wage war on Christians and Jews. Merah is named after the prophet of his religion, who also killed plenty of Jews in his life time.

It is time to oppose all immigration of genuine Muslims to America, and accept only those "Muslims" who publicly reject Allah, the crazy Prophet Mo, and the teachings of the genocidal Quran. I think that, after the shootings in France, even liberal Jews can be sympathetic to efforts to restrict Muslim immigration to America.

1 posted on 03/21/2012 9:49:23 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.


2 posted on 03/21/2012 9:52:03 AM PDT by DManA
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When I see them demonstrating in the streets supporting the USA I'd say yes, but that will never happen so the answer is NO.
3 posted on 03/21/2012 9:52:19 AM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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"Can a Genuine Muslim Be Loyal to America?"


4 posted on 03/21/2012 9:54:10 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: pinochet

It wouldn’t matter to a Muslim what the Oath of Citizenship says anyway, they will lie to advance their agenda. Besides, when was the last time someone was charged with treason?


5 posted on 03/21/2012 9:54:30 AM PDT by happilymarriedmom
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Can a Genuine Muslim Be Loyal to America?

Is Iran building nuclear facilities deep underground for energy purposes?

6 posted on 03/21/2012 9:55:25 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: pinochet

In days of yore, I posited a parallel argument on FR, to the effect that a true atheist could not be a true American patriot. I openly acknowledge that there have been atheists who have made the ultimate sacrifice while in this nation’s uniform, and there are self-proclaimed atheists who are productive contributing members of this society; I deny none of that. What I do stand by is that while they enjoy, and perhaps feel a tremendous gratitude for the freedoms and liberties they have historically enjoyed, they have not recognized or acknowledged the philosophical source or justification of those rights on which this nation was founded.


7 posted on 03/21/2012 9:56:44 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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No.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 9:56:50 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: happilymarriedmom

>>>It wouldn’t matter to a Muslim what the Oath of Citizenship says anyway, they will lie to advance their agenda

Muslims are permitted to lie about a lot of things. But no genuine Muslim will ever publicly reject Allah, the prophet, and the Quran, in a public forum. A genuine Muslim can never lie on such an issue. All Muslims who take the oath of citizenship, should have video footage made of them, in which they publicly reject Allah, the Quran, and Mohammed. That would ensure that they never travel to Muslim countries, because they could be tried for blasphemy and apostasy.


9 posted on 03/21/2012 10:05:13 AM PDT by pinochet
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“Can a Genuine Muslim Be Loyal to America?” No.


10 posted on 03/21/2012 10:13:16 AM PDT by CelesteChristi
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The oath of citizenship should require all citizens to declare in public, that they put the American constitution ahead of Allah, the Prophet Mohammed, and the Holy Quran.

I do not put the American Constitution ahead of my God.

11 posted on 03/21/2012 10:14:27 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Eccl 10 v. 19 A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things.)
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I put Jesus ahead of the United States and the Constitution.

What we need is not to change the oath of citizenship but to stop Muslim immigration. We didn’t embrace Communists during the Cold War for the sake of diversity. Sure, some of them were great engineers and some made good blini and some of them weren’t all that serious about communism and some of them would have been assets to our country and good citizens and neighbors, but on the whole, an influx of communists would have been very bad for us. Same with the Muslims. Not the Cold War, but the Long War.


12 posted on 03/21/2012 10:24:49 AM PDT by heartwood
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No, they get a chance to recant. They are allowed to deny Allah and Mohammed for their own safety, if they recant when it is safe, and is not jihad a greater cause than their own safety?


13 posted on 03/21/2012 10:26:39 AM PDT by heartwood
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[ Can a Genuine Muslim Be Loyal to America? ]

At least he’s not a democrat...
If a muslim is also a democrat he hates the United States and is ALSO suicidal..


14 posted on 03/21/2012 10:36:13 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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No...


15 posted on 03/21/2012 10:38:14 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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“The *only* good Muslim is a bad Muslim.”

NOT TRUE! Dead muslims are just as good as dead injuns.


16 posted on 03/21/2012 10:40:23 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: DManA

“The *only* good Muslim is a bad Muslim.”

NOT TRUE! Dead muslims are just as good as dead injuns.


17 posted on 03/21/2012 10:40:42 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: boomop1

If you go by the previous Muslims that have occupied the White House the answer to that question is no.


18 posted on 03/21/2012 10:41:54 AM PDT by THE_RAIDER (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing their idiot.)
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To: Graybeard58

Correct but the United States being a nation promulgated from the enlightenment (British not French) requires a seperation of State from Church “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”

That islam believes the opposite that the state is controlled by religion

“Those who participated in secular politics were raising the flag of revolt against Allah and his messenger”

To put it bluntly the Constitution can abide islam but islam can not abide the Constitution. See Surah 9:5 and following.

In essence the difference between Christendom and islam may be summed up by what to my way of thinking is the foundation for separation of Church and State

Matthew 22:21 New International Version (NIV)

21 “Caesar’s,” they replied.

Then he said to them, “So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s, and to God what is God’s.”

islam has no such structure.


19 posted on 03/21/2012 10:54:55 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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Hell no!


20 posted on 03/21/2012 10:59:40 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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