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Health-Care Challenge Evokes Roosevelt New Deal High Court Clash
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | March 19, 2012 | by Seth Stern

Posted on 03/19/2012 11:59:20 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

In reviewing Barack Obama's health care overhaul, the U.S. Supreme Court has pushed into territory it hasn't approached since the days of Franklin D. Roosevelt.

"This is a central challenge to the modern Constitution, which was fashioned during the New Deal and then elaborated further during the civil rights revolution," said Bruce Ackerman, a professor at Yale Law School in New Haven, Connecticut and author of "The Decline and Fall of the American Republic" and 14 other books. "This goes to the very foundations of modern American government."

The court will determine whether the government can force millions of people to obtain insurance. The decision may influence the outcome of November's presidential election. The potential legal impact has few parallels in the court's history.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: failure; obamacare; scotus; socialism
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"...the modern Constitution..."

These people hate liberty, the founding, and our Constitution.

1 posted on 03/19/2012 11:59:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What if the Scotus sides with the Potus?


2 posted on 03/19/2012 12:10:02 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf
What if the Scotus sides with the Potus?

End game.

3 posted on 03/19/2012 12:12:02 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: cuban leaf
What if the Scotus sides with the Potus?

Then America as we know it is dead. The Rule of Law means nothing and we will all be confiscated, subjugated, re-educated or eliminated.

4 posted on 03/19/2012 12:14:33 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What can’t the government force you to buy, if 0bamaCare is legal?


5 posted on 03/19/2012 12:17:45 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ..
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

6 posted on 03/19/2012 12:19:11 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Lurking Libertarian; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; ..
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

7 posted on 03/19/2012 12:19:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Uncle Miltie

More ammunition.


8 posted on 03/19/2012 12:24:50 PM PDT by boomop1 (term limits is the only way to save this country.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I hope not. Ultimately FDR rolled ‘em.


9 posted on 03/19/2012 12:27:44 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rarestia
It would not be the end game any more than the Dred Scott decision was. However, it would be the start of a very long road. We should not have to reply on a handful of people in robed to decide this. Allowing the government to take over schools, and in turn create teachers unions, has led to a situation where millions are comfortable with handing everything over to bureaucrats.
10 posted on 03/19/2012 12:30:52 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: cuban leaf
What if the Scotus sides with the Potus?

I have said all along that SCOTUS would not overturn this travesty. They have already let the government spend 100's of Billions in creating the implementation bodies, which Michelle Bachman fought valiantly to get defunded, but Boehner crashed and trashed her efforts by claiming some delude nonsense about a rule.

We will have government health care even if we elect the apparent nominee, by that time I will have squeezed the last bit of care out of my health plan, and at my age I will get no more, that I know.

11 posted on 03/19/2012 12:38:55 PM PDT by itsahoot (Tag lines are a waste of bandwidth, as are my comments.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; rarestia

—Then America as we know it is dead.—

I agree with both of you, but I’ll just throw out a twist: I think it already is a dead country walking, but that would speed it up. The simple fact that there are so many in this country overtly pro socialist and anti free market says it all. It’s like watching Dr Zivago.


12 posted on 03/19/2012 12:39:23 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: itsahoot

If I was not a Christian and consider this life an incredibly temporary thing, I’d be mightily depressed by what I am seeing happen to this country, and where it is going.

Some liberals on the internet make fun of my place in Kentucky as a “bunker”, but if the SCOTUS sides with Obama, I may just need to build one.


13 posted on 03/19/2012 12:42:57 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I had earlier today observed that this would, in effect, rule on the ROLE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT overall, in mandating what cars we can drive (ObamaMotors), what food we can eat (Moochelle's anti-choice food debacle, where food rots because kids won't eat it), Regulatory mandates that Consumers are forced to pay for, etc., etc.

Does ANYONE seriously think the USSC (packed now with Liberal Activists) is going to rule for The People, as opposed to for the Progressive Agenda?

14 posted on 03/19/2012 12:43:53 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"This is a central challenge to the modern Constitution, which was fashioned during the New Deal and then elaborated further during the civil rights revolution," said Bruce Ackerman, a professor at Yale Law School in New Haven, Connecticut ...

Sums up the problem right there. There is no "modern" Constitution, just the one that has been largely ignored since the New Deal.

15 posted on 03/19/2012 12:49:14 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: cuban leaf
Correct. If Obama cannot be reigned in by peaceful means, then the country will have determined, by default, to reign him in by other means.

You will see large swaths of the south, the Rocky Mountain states and the midwest become bunkers with a few urban enclaves for the nanny staters.

You will see the rest of the country become places where the nanny staters reign supreme with a few rural bunkers for the rest of us. The outcome won't be pretty.

But I'd still place my bets on those who control the production of food and materials over those who control the government, media, law and distribution of health care.

16 posted on 03/19/2012 12:52:31 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: traditional1

“Does ANYONE seriously think the USSC (packed now with Liberal Activists) is going to rule for The People, as opposed to for the Progressive Agenda? “

You touched on what our Framers corrected with our Constitution. Courts in colonial America were King’s Courts. The judges served at the pleasure of the King. They protected the prerogatives of the sovereign, the King.

With revolution, we the people became the sovereign. Our independent judiciary is supposed to protect our interests as expressed in the document they swore allegiance to.

Instead, our Judges do what the King’s judges did 240 years ago. Protect and advance the interests of the Executive/King/President.


17 posted on 03/19/2012 12:55:53 PM PDT by Jacquerie (No court will save us from ourselves.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I will not be that easy for obama in the South.

LLS


18 posted on 03/19/2012 1:35:14 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer


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19 posted on 03/19/2012 2:01:14 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: traditional1

With Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Kennedy — I hardly think you have a liberal panel.

What makes you say that?

These are very much staunch believers in God’s laws as well as the Constitution of the United States.


20 posted on 03/19/2012 2:04:35 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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