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Japan's lost libido and America's asexual future
Asia Times ^ | March 13, 2012 | Spengler

Posted on 03/12/2012 9:22:02 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

[According to] a Japanese government study: Almost a third of Japanese boys aged 16-20 and three-fifths of girls say that they have no interest in sex.

The hormones of late adolescence evidently rage in vain against some cultural barrier that makes young Japanese "despise" sexual relations, according to the Japan Family Planning Association's report [1].

It turns out that the ultimate victim of sexual revolution is sex itself.

What makes the Japanese hate sex? The same things that make a growing proportion of Americans hate sex. Joan Sewell's 2007 book I'd Rather Eat Chocolate became the manifesto of American women who don't like sex, hailed at the as "the next wild turn in the female sexual revolution" by Sandra Tsing Loh in The Atlantic Monthly [2].

Pharmaceutical companies are racing to market a pill to revive fading female libido, to no avail: women do not want to be sex objects, and a culture that objectifies women will make them hate sex, as I wrote in this space five years ago [3]. But the problem has gotten worse than I imagined it would.

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After half a century of sexual revolution - otherwise known as objectification - women suffer en masse from the sexual equivalent of Stockholm Syndrome, identification with their tormentors, as a number of popular commentators observe.

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For adolescent girls, the replacement of courtship by "hooking up" with "friends with benefits" is a cruel prospect.

Even though only three out of ten American teenagers aged 13 to 16 are sexually active [7], the options available to adolescent girls are narrowly defined. Adolescent boys are monsters, as anyone who has been one, or known one, can attest...

[snip]

Freud's question, "What do women want?," ...

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Japan; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: culturalsuicide; makes; moralabsolutes; sin; stupid; you
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To: Boogieman

No. I don’t blame it all on men. Not at all. I’m painfully familiar with my own contribution to the mess, and the contribution of womankind (and woman-unkind) in general.

If I gave an anti-male impression, I was not expressing myself very adequately.

That happens sometimes.


121 posted on 03/12/2012 5:55:07 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Disaster follows when teenage girls are allowed unlimited discretion to couple with whatever loser comes along.”

That is a very unpopular truth.


122 posted on 03/12/2012 11:33:51 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued

If this isn’t bull and the people aren’t lying in this survey then something is seriously wrong with those people, poisoned environment or food supply?


123 posted on 03/13/2012 4:32:08 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; maikeru; Dr. Marten; Eric in the Ozarks; Al Gator; snowsislander; sushiman; ...
See comments #6 and #16, by Hodar and X. FWIW.

日本 ピング  (kono risuto ni hairitai ka detai wo shirasete kudasai : let me know if you want on or off this list)

124 posted on 03/13/2012 11:50:25 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Everybody in the porn industry has just one name ~


125 posted on 03/13/2012 12:02:17 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: FreedomPoster; Norm Lenhart

The Chinese will simply use a more old-fashioned method to solve their sex imbalance problem: take the women from elsewhere.


126 posted on 03/13/2012 3:04:15 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: savagesusie

Whether tv or books challenge your mind is a separate issue from what I was commenting on. Both are, or rather can be, a means to escape from reality.


127 posted on 03/13/2012 3:19:08 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: redgolum

Yes, some people to this day would rather tell us what to think, because they think we are not generally smart enough to understand things for ourselves.


128 posted on 03/13/2012 3:20:27 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Understood. I just tired of the “blame the men” that goes for debate on these topics in society. Men have plenty to answer for, surely, but we didn’t make this mess all by ourselves, and we sure can’t dig our way out of it alone either :)


129 posted on 03/13/2012 3:31:32 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Norm Lenhart

I bet those vintage dirty woodcuts are worth a pretty penny nowadays. Well, I’m off to eBay!


130 posted on 03/13/2012 3:33:52 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Impy; Perdogg; fieldmarshaldj; Clintonfatigued

I was thinking acute poisoning via the food/water supply.


131 posted on 03/13/2012 3:51:03 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (The Establishment is the establishment.)
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To: Boogieman; savagesusie; Norm Lenhart; Tax-chick
"Whether tv or books challenge your mind is a separate issue from what I was commenting on. Both are, or rather can be, a means to escape from reality."

For those who find TV a challenge to the mind, you have my profound symphonies.

In regard to books, especially relating to video and computer games, here's what I had to say back on February 16th:

The stack of books to read is growing faster than anyone's ability to keep up. If you read three books a day, you're still falling behind.

Don't worry about it. Not reading is worse.

Reading is a way of making up for having a short 80-ish life-span. Each book is a distillation of the life experiences of the author, and of the wisdom he or she has gleaned in surviving them.

Reading books is the opposite of playing computer games; with every book you read, another life essence is added to your own.

132 posted on 03/13/2012 4:22:29 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If "everybody's different" then two of them have to be the same. It's the only way to be different.)
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To: NicknamedBob; Norm Lenhart; savagesusie

Bob, the actual author-type fellow, is quite right. (If only he used semicolons a little more often, he’d be nearly perfect!)

I would say, however, that television can challenge the mind in the same way a theatrical performance or a lecture can. It depends on the material and the presentation, and on what the viewer does with it. In my living room, we often have discussions that are suggested by the content of what we see on television - it’s the analysis that’s challenging, especially when all the know-it-alls are present, not necessarily taking in the broadcast itself.


133 posted on 03/13/2012 4:29:45 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Oh, good Lord. Pat.)
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To: Boogieman
Agreed. I am just sick of women and men dragging each other down. I got an eyeful (and an earful) of that a long time ago, and made a resolution on the spot to try never to do that, so help me God!

I am very grateful that we have so much peace, harmony and mutual respect at home, my husband and I --- not because of my (scant) virtue, but very much because of his.

134 posted on 03/13/2012 4:31:46 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child that's got his own." Billie Holiday / Arthur Herzog Jr)
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To: Tax-chick; NicknamedBob; savagesusie

I’ll go with the ‘depending on content’ thing for TV. It’s just that IMO 99% of it, even the History Channel type docs are unwatchable and offer nothing but agenda driven programming and biased ‘historical’ views.

But there ARE indeed jems in the dumpster.

As for Video games, same thing. Being a Sci-fi/horror fan that’s read literally hundreds of books (started reading novels around age 5) I love RPGs and ‘playing’ the kinds of books I so enjoy.

When most people thing VGs, they think mindless drivel and things like Mario that are fun, but otherwise meaningless. Do a search on the games Xenogears (Playstation 1996/7ish) and the Xenosaga series (early-late 2000s/PS2 and 3). The level of story detail in them rival something like Ender’s Game and span 10,000 years of game history. The supplemental/production materials for Xenogears alone would make a thick novel.

And it’s not a simple hunt/kill adventure. You have to put some thought into it - and you become very immersed.

No, it won’t make you ‘smarter’ or help you in your daily job, but ‘mindless’ it’s not ;)

Many RPG, especially the Japaneese (gee, where have we heard about Japaneese men and video games before... ;) RPGs like the Shin Megami Tensi/Persona series are really more book than game. The story arcs are just incredible and require multiple playthroughs to ‘get it all’. All the above BTW are heavy on Jungean philosophy and concept.

Which explains in part the Hikkimoris out there and lack of interest in sex I guess ;)

And online at least, the discussions get quite deep into the historical/theological/philosophical discussions. And not just by a bunch of teenagers. These aren’t ‘kids’ games to begin with - in the non-porn sense.

Just wanted to throw it out there, FWIW.


135 posted on 03/13/2012 5:04:25 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

My teenagers play computer games ... Skyrim, Assassins’ Creed, Medal of Honor, I don’t know what-all else. If they didn’t also read like maniacs, I might worry, but as it is, I look on it as the equivalent of watching a movie.

I’ve just never been a game person. I live in text.


136 posted on 03/13/2012 5:13:08 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Oh, good Lord. Pat.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Tax-chick; Darksheare; savagesusie
If memory serves, (and, of course, it does), it was a discussion such as this that led Darksheare into creating an alternate future, with robots, and biological entities, and some things that were a little bit of both.

Such studies can be useful and instructive, as well as entertaining. And, as someone has observed, "it’s easy to predict the future when you’re making it happen".

137 posted on 03/13/2012 5:21:02 PM PDT by NicknamedBob (If "everybody's different" then two of them have to be the same. It's the only way to be different.)
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To: Tax-chick

Then readith ye this dear lady and be amazed ;)

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/199365-xenogears/faqs/29716

I have to wait on Skyrim as my PS3 blew up ... (an expensive grrrr), but I hear it’s quite good. I played Elder Scrolls Oblivion and loved it.


138 posted on 03/13/2012 5:25:12 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: NicknamedBob; Norm Lenhart; Tax-chick; savagesusie

Rampant nanotech, regeneratiove medical nanites that may or may not enslave you, robots, genetic manipulation of lower life forms to create sentience, and horrific tech that can possibly wipeout entire star systems through a failed teleporter.

And rabbits.


139 posted on 03/13/2012 5:33:07 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
This cuts both ways.

For premarital, young people, depressing the desire to have sexual activity is a very good thing, or let me see, controlling the desire is good. What I am saying is chastity, purity, mental preparation and abstinence.

However, this cannot be allowed to continue over into adulthood and marriage. They must have romance and that is what sex is premised on anyways in marraige, and should be. The result would be a baby boom and a shot of life to Japan with its terribly aging population. One area to start would be for salarymen to be able to get home at more decent hours rather than a) spending so many hours working overtime, and/or b) faced with so many possible sexual (for money) outlets outside of their marriage in the neon funk that awaits them as they transit from there brightly lit offices to the warm welcoming light on their own front porches in the suburbs.

140 posted on 03/13/2012 5:35:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (If this tagline box could take FOREIGN SCRIPT fonts, Man oh Man could I have some fun!!)
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