Author Diana Wagman - LA Times Bookfair, 2006(appears to be carrying a non-recyclable plastic
bag containing an unidentified brown substance)
I understand how Wagman feels. I feel the same way about liberals. Can’t stand em, can’t stand to be around em.
No link at the article to the story on which he is commenting.
Very bad form, IMO.
There are basically two types of people in the world.
Those who want to be left alone, and the meddling busybodies who won’t leave them alone.
Wagman is in the meddling busybody camp.
I just want to be left alone.
I don’t care what the GBLFTXUSEOQ people do. It’s their own business. They can even proclaim themselves married and find some ignorant “minister” to marry them.
I don’t care if the Occupiers want to live in pee-stained, fecal-smudged clothes and stink.
Just don’t do it in my neighborhood.
Do it on your own time, on your own dime, and in your own place.
Don’t have a place?
NOT MY PROBLEM!
Just leave me ALONE!
“They’re neither kind not empathetic.” Oh.....my.....this shows how deluded Democrats are. I’d be willing to bet you that if you asked this woman to describe herself, she would say that she’s kind and empathetic. I’m sure she considers herself to be a “good person”. She doesn’t like Republicans, so they can’t be good like she is. If they’re not like her, then they must not be kind and empathetic. She is actually on the road to recovery. She realizes that there’s dissonance in her view of the world. A mature person’s next step would be to investigate the reasons for this dissonance in her life. I hold little hope that she will behave in a rational and mature manner.
“Her views seem so logical to her...”
Those views don’t come from her brain but her intestines.
Progressives are invariably visceral, hostile, psychotic animals; the ultimate in jihadism.
IMHO
From her article as posted Ohio.com...
My mother had Republican friends. She was a lifelong Democrat, worked with the Adlai Stevenson for president campaign and was a precinct chairman for Hubert Humphrey. She was ashamed of Richard Nixon and thought Ronald Reagan was misguided. Still, she didn’t hate Republicans. She disagreed with their politics and they with hers, but she believed people, no matter how they vote, are basically all the same.
I don’t agree. I don’t want to be friends with someone who is a member of the tea party or is a Newt Gingrich Republican. We are not the same. I equate their political views with thoughtlessness, intolerance and narcissism. I think they are not kind or empathetic. And my neighbor made it clear that he does not respect my opinions or me.
It’s interesting to me in that I was recently re-reading a Science-Fiction book from the 1960’s. I won’t go into detail because it’s not germane to this discussion but even back then he saw the world splitting into two or possibly three broadly defined groups.
One group he called the Delinq’s because they were incapable of telling right from wrong or morals. They believed in anarchy above all else yet they were instinctively drawn to the most powerful and vicious as their leaders.
The other main group he called either the ‘Police’ or “Security”, they in turn fought the Delinq’s in every way they could. They were all about Law and order and had severe morals, yet they were willing to fight using the most nasty means possible.
And last were the ‘Normals’ or ‘Neutrals’, they were the ones who just wanted to be left alone by the other two groups to live peaceful productive lives.
The point I want to bring up is that nearly fifty years ago this man was able to extrapolate from what he was seeing in society around him and could visualize where it was leading us.
I see parallels today with the ‘Liberals’ and how they seem to have difficulty telling right from wrong and are drawn to strong and vicious leaders. You can figure out who the other groups are yourself.
And from what little I can figure out from the Article’s quotes about Ms. Wagman, she certainly has aligned herself well. She is a good Delinq or Liberal.
So she wants this guy's kid dead in Afghan, or his daughter preggers...well, maybe I want *her* out of work, broke, in debt and facing food and fuel that she can't afford. Let her be POOR, since she so clearly wants everyone else to be poor...
It’s been my personal experience that conservatives are much more tolerant of liberals ... by that I mean liberal friends, relatives and co-workers ... than liberals are of conservatives.
I tolerated an extremely liberal friend for 30 years ... I mean she was big in Texas dem politics. She knew we disagreed but I never argued with her, just asked her to talk about something else.
The first time we actually argued was the day of Ronald Reagan’s funeral. I mentioned that I’d spent and dedicated the entire day watching the ceremonies and she said something nasty about Reagan.
I said to her, “I love Reagan and I would never say something like that about Jim Mattox (her very special friend).”
That was it, she never spoke to me again.
That’s democrat tolerance.
Clausewitz noted that war is politics carried on by other means. I hold that the reverse is also true.
I went to a cookout in 2004, after having had a tooth extracted, and sat with the host’s 82 yr old step father.
I was glumly rubbing my swollen chin, sucking on a scotch when he old bastard - out of the blue - said Bush sucks. Suffering from election rage already, I screamed a streamed of obscenities ending with “die already you old parasite.”
The old guy jumps up and says ya want a piece of me and I had a right cross cocked when the wives pounced on us.
I’m not fit company during election years and apologize in advance to FRiends for being on edge. I truly hate liberals.
Wagman speculates whether or not experiencing a few things like an unwanted pregnancy or a lesbianrelative would change their minds.
I can answer that.
I have four daughters.
The oldest is a practicing lesbian and is goingto DC later this month to be legally married to her partner. I love them both, although they do limit the amount of contact they have with us.
Two of my daughters have had a total of three children out of wedlock. My grandchildren are the joy of my life.
One daughter had two abortions. One I knew about and tried to prevent. She now regrets both and she is a newly minted conservative.
I have nephews in the military. I pray for their safety and respect their willingness to serve.
Ms Wagman could learn alot if she opened that closed mind of hers and listened to conservatives, but as one liberal let slip during a discussionwith me once “My beliefs are more important than the truth!” It’s all about believing themselves to be superior.
Very predictable Democrat cargo-cult behavior. Not dissimilar to what happens when primitives are shown that their local tree or rock isn't God. A fanatical temper tantrum.
These people live in the thrall of the great and powerful Kos / thinkprogress / mediamatters etc. and if their lying eyes tell them anything different, their eyes must be wrong.
Let us hope that Ms. Wagman is speaking for herself, and does not represent the views and attitudes of the modern American liberal.
No chance. She and her husband are EXACTLY typical of the contemporary American liberal: Self-righteously loud, bullying, and completely intolerant.
“We are not the same. I equate Republicans’ political views with thoughtlessness, intolerance and narcissism. They’re neither kind nor empathetic.”
Don't let the evidence of your own eyes right in front of you get in the way of your preconceived prejudices. That might cause confusion, and confusion is bad for those who only feel and don't think rationally. Best to continue on living in your own little bubble. It's more comfortable that way.
Author Diana Wagman - LA Times Bookfair, 2006(appears to be carrying a non-recyclable plastic
bag containing an unidentified brown substance)
There is no, and will never be any reconciliation with leftist evil. The sooner people come to terms with that fact, the better.
The differences in the way liberals and conservatives reach conclusions comes down to far more than simply differing opinions - - it actually comes down to entirely different thought processes. Conservatives tend to think linearly: “If this, then this”; “Here is what was attempted, here are the results”; “Based on experience, this works and this does not work”. Etc.
Liberals do not think that way. Liberals are easily conned, easily manipulated, and utterly unwilling to admit when they are wrong. Their obsession with constantly attempting to elicit “apologies” from Republicans is an offshoot of these strained thought processes. Liberals, when confronted with bare-bones truth that contradicts their irrational world view, will scrunch their eyes shut, shake their heads, and chant “nah-nah-nah-nah-nah-nah” until whatever truth it is they find offensive “goes away”, rather than revise their thoughts and beliefs to conform to a truth that is slapping them in the face. They simply do not have the capacity to revise their thoughts and beliefs to conform to the truth before their very eyes if that truth contradicts the foundation of the beliefs they irrationally hold onto as a weapon in the constant struggle against their own insecurity.
Certainly, there are notable exceptions such as David Horowitz, PJ O’Rourke, Bernie Goldberg, Michael Medved and others who were smart enough to lift themselves out of the mire of self-loathing liberal stupidity but these folks are, unfortunately, rare exceptions.
Being an unabashed liberal is a matter of character (or more accurately, lack of character). Liberals are generally humorless and bitter because, you see, everybody else is (richer, happier, luckier, prettier, fill-in-the-blank) than they deserve to be and that is just not “fair”. (Words like "fair", and phrases such as "social justice", are common favorites used by liberals.) Liberals are social duds who are either chronic malcontents or simply that guilt-ridden subset of white liberals who feel that their own good fortune (and by extension the good fortune of others) is somehow undeserved. In any event, liberals usually see themselves as "victims". They always see anybody beneath their station as "victims".
In this world, there are people (most people, in fact) who look at all other people as their equals in every way, as people who are capable of realizing their personal aspirations and doing the right things, as people who should be treated as equals. Alternatively, there are people who look up adoringly at people they view as somehow better than themselves. These are the same people who look loathingly down on other people they view as their lessers. Guess which kind of people liberals tend to be?
Interestingly, true liberals are often physically slow and unathletic. They were picked last for playground basketball games. They have no interest in competetive sports, especially team sports. “Competetive sports” is, in fact, very much an alien concept to them. To be blunt, true liberals (genuine socialists) are almost always clumsy oafs.
Additionally, true liberals are humorless. Seething, deep seated anger causes an entrenched bitterness that ends up defining them. The evidence of this abounds and can be seen on certain TV stations every day. The liberals have no Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter or Mark Steyn or Howie Carr or Dennis Miller or Ronald Reagan... They have Keith Olbemann and Helen Thomas and Ed Shultz and Lawrence O'Donnell and Barack Ubama.... there is simply not a lot of laughter there. Liberals, in fact, find laughter... uncomfortable. (What's there to laugh about? Look at all the suffering in this horrible, unjust world.) True liberals don’t “get” jokes, even if they chuckle as if they do. (Test this for yourself - - tell a true liberal a joke. For additonal laughs, ask the liberal if he/she/it has a good joke to tell you.)
Liberals can appear to be normal people and are often able to handle their jobs and academic endeavors competently. They can usually fake normal socialization with other people, even if their self-centeredness prevents them from ever establishing true friendships. Liberals do not have true friends, merely acquaintances who can be used in some way, especially to affirm their own crazy political notions.
But it is their sociopathic selfishness that is the most troubling thing about liberals. They see absolutely no problem with walking into the polling place on election day and voting for big government to confiscate more money - - from their neighbors! Normal people would view this behavior as boorish and rude, but liberals apparently convince themselves that they are somehow accomplishing something; perhaps the exercise soothes their irrational guilt under the tragic misbelief that they are somehow “helping” others (using other people’s money, of course), notably, “the poor”.
So, by voting for thuggish big government to take more money from their neighbors in order to enable their Democrat politicians to buy the votes of society’s losers, bums, and parasites, liberals feel better about themselves. (Don’t ask me about this mindset - - figuring out liberals would best be left to a team of very good psychiatrists.)
Anyway, I believe that the percentage of true liberals in this country is actually very low - - far less than a typical Democrat election-day turnout would indicate. The rats run a good con and there is no shortage of fools littering the countryside (not to mention the concentrated Democrat parasite nests known as "cities") who will continue to buy into the con.
Think about this - - how gullible did you have to be in 2008 to fall for a campaign that could have been formulated by a boardwalk psychic; a campaign based primarily on two essentially meaningless words, “hope” and “change”, words that sound so... positive... but that allow the smiling, naval-gazing listener’s imagination to turn them into whatever he or she wants? Unfortunately, in today’s soundbite world such a campaign can be (and was!) successful. And so we ended up with “community organizer” Barack Hussein Obama as President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces.
Pray for America. In less than one year we shall see if Americans are insistent on committing national suicide.
Karl Marx defined peace as "absence of opposition to Socialism".
Similarly, Ms Wagman would only want polarization, incivility and divisiveness to disappear on HER terms, namely the surrender of conservatives to adoption of HER viewpoints, rather than HER choosing to be more civil and truly tolerant.
I have heard that it is possible for a conservative republican to be friends with a liberal democrat. It does require a strictly-adhered to agreement between the parties that nothing political will ever be discussed. Beyond that, I think it’s a bit of a minefield to navigate social and cultural discussions, though I do know of people who have pulled it off for years.
