Glen Beck Vigorously Insisting Mormans are Christians.

ROCKLOBSTER

[ROCKLOBSTER]

This morning Glen Beck was discussing "what is a Christian" and used the full title of the LDS Church as proof they are Christians, not some whacked out cult based on a modern day "prophet".

He also spoke of how Soros thinks of himself as a god.

As a disclaimer, every member of that church that I've ever met was a clean living, humble and generous person...but that doesn't make them Christians.

[Elsie]

When your own prophets say that the blood of Christ will never be enough, then they've just said they are not Christian.

[Elsie]

The ABOVE is in case they are not COMPLETELY blind yet...

Truth is not hate but your ignorance makes you blind.

[Elsie]

They are ruled by Satan.

Be careful; as there is one in this thread that will call you JUDGEMENTAL.

[Elsie]

the first LMFAO of the day thank you very much!

HEY!!!

Where'd you start reading???

[Larry Lucido]

I've never seen one before,

Where have you been, under a rock, lobster?

[Elsie]

Mitt; you ain't doing a very good job of advancing the MORMON corporate logo; so we is droppin' back to support Beck more.

If THAT fails; well...

We've still got the Osmond's!

Sorry; but we gotta go with what WORKS: remember POLYGAMY??)

[Elsie]

Wrong, we stopped the Salem witch trials long ago.

Eat yer meat before it warms up again...

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DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 89

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Kirtland, Ohio, February 27, 1833. HC 1: 327–329. As a consequence of the early brethren using tobacco in their meetings, the Prophet was led to ponder upon the matter; consequently he inquired of the Lord concerning it. This revelation, known as the Word of Wisdom, was the result. The first three verses were originally written as an inspired introduction and description by the Prophet.

 

1–9, Use of wine, strong drinks, tobacco, and hot drinks proscribed; 10–17, Herbs, fruits, flesh, and grain are ordained for the use of man and of animals; 18–21, Obedience to gospel law, including the Word of Wisdom, brings temporal and spiritual blessings.

 

  1 A ^aWord OF Wisdom, for the benefit of the council of high priests, assembled in Kirtland, and the church, and also the saints in Zion—

  2 To be sent greeting; not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the ^aword of wisdom, showing forth the order and ^bwill of God in the temporal salvation of all saints in the last days—

  3 Given for a principle with ^apromise, adapted to the capacity of the ^bweak and the weakest of all ^csaints, who are or can be called saints.

  4 Behold, verily, thus saith the Lord unto you: In consequence of ^aevils and designs which do and will exist in the hearts of ^bconspiring men in the last days, I have ^cwarned you, and forewarn you, by giving unto you this word of wisdom by revelation—

  5 That inasmuch as any man ^adrinketh ^bwine or strong drink among you, behold it is not good, neither meet in the sight of your Father, only in assembling yourselves together to offer up your sacraments before him.

  6 And, behold, this should be wine, yea, ^apure wine of the grape of the vine, of your own make.

  7 And, again, ^astrong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.

  8 And again, tobacco is not for the ^abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.

  9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.

  10 And again, verily I say unto you, all wholesome ^aherbs God hath ordained for the constitution, nature, and use of man—

  11 Every herb in the season thereof, and every fruit in the season thereof; all these to be used with ^aprudence and ^bthanksgiving.

  12 Yea, ^aflesh also of ^bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used ^csparingly;

  13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be ^aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or ^bfamine.

  14 All ^agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;

  15 And ^athese hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.

  16 All grain is good for the ^afood of man; as also the ^bfruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

  17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

  18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, ^ashall receive ^bhealth in their navel and marrow to their bones;

  19 And shall ^afind ^bwisdom and great ^ctreasures of ^dknowledge, even hidden treasures;

  20 And shall ^arun and not be ^bweary, and shall walk and not faint.

  21 And I, the Lord, give unto them a promise, that the ^adestroying angel shall ^bpass by them, as the children of Israel, and not slay them. Amen.

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[Elsie]

I just wish you all would give the bandwidth a rest.

Are you STILL on dialup???

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Popcorn please. Here we go again with the same ol’ insecure bunch spending time and energy excluding others who believe in the ressurection. Not being a Christian myself I find it mildly entertaing. Carry on. :-)

[Kit cat]

Thank-you, I am also very tired of these threads. Why should any persons
faith be better than another’s. Our American culture is in a shambles and
as long as someone’s faith does not teach hatred GIVE IT A REST!!!!!

[Deb]

I know these Mormon threads are meant to damage Romney, but I have to agree with Beck this morning when he said to "look at the deeds". Regardless of politics, Romney seems to be a moral, loyal, loving husband and father who donates a ton of his money to charity and helping conservatives get elected. He doesn't drink, smoke or swear. He can't be pinned to any personal or business scandal and he sure isn't boastful or arrogant.

The only hideous sin anyone can attack him with is "flip-flopping". With majority Tea Party members in the House and Senate he'd be an okay choice. As would Newt or Santorum.

[sand lake bar]

Bravo!

[Kit cat]

I AM NOT GLENN’S MOMMY, some of you folks are vile!!!! If this faith
saved Glenn’s life WHAT THE HECK IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!! Our culture
today is full of hatred and evil. I have been a Catholic my entire life, but
I have in my life had several friends who were Mormon and,found them to be VERY giving and committed to family. I can not stand Romney but it
has NOTHING to do with his Mormanism. Some of you on this site are
just so self righteous BACK OFF.

[Kit cat]

BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO, I do not like Romney due to his robot empty
suit persona, has NOT one thing to do with his faith. As long as one’s
faith is not hatred people on this site NEED TO BACK OFF!!!!!

[Deb]

I guess we’re a minority.

[freebird5850]

bump for later handshaking

[Invincibly Ignorant]

They do NOT teach the truth about Jesus.

Do they believe in the ressurection? I'd always thought that was the minumum requirement.

[Boogieman]

“However, as you probably know, my statement (and Glen Beck’s) isn’t based on making a theological purity test. It is based on the need to make political alliances to advance a freer and more moral America.”

Huh? You said only Jesus can decide, not you, not blah blah blah. What does that have to do with political alliances? Sounds to me like you are just walking it back now.

[Vigilanteman]

I assure you we're not in the minority. We just have better things to do with our lives than play "holier than thou" Christian Talibanism.

I'm learning what posters aren't even worth reading, much less responding to. You will too.

[SZonian]

By doctrine, he’s technically still a pro-abort mormon. Mormons, in case you weren’t aware, aren’t completely anti-abortion by doctrine and practice. After consultation with local “authority”, a pregnant mormon is to “pray about it” and see if God approves or disapproves. Some position that is.

“We have no revelation on abortion”

Didn’t you assume Mormons were pro-life? That’s certainly the image their church attempts to broadcast, and most Mormons, in fact, mistakenly believe their church opposes abortion and regards it as an objective evil. But not so.

Indeed, the Mormon church accepts abortion for a number of reasons. The Church Handbook of Instructions, approved in September, 1998, states that abortion may be performed in the following circumstances: pregnancy resulting from rape or incest; a competent physician says the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy; or a competent physician says that the “fetus” has severe defects that will not allow the “baby” to survive beyond birth. In any case, the persons responsible must first consult with their church leader and receive God’s approval in prayer (156).

This same Handbook, the official policies of the Mormon church to be followed by all local church leaders throughout the world, also claims: “It is a fact that a child has life before birth. However, there is no direct revelation on when the spirit enters the body” (156). Previous teachings by former Mormon prophets referred to the unborn child as “a child,” “a baby,” a “human being,” and decried abortion as “killing,” “a grievous sin,” “a damnable practice.” Spencer W. Kimball, the prophet who died in 1985, taught, “We have repeatedly affirmed the position of the church in unalterably opposing all abortions” (Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, 189).

It appears that this “unalterable” position, constantly “affirmed,” is just another in a series of doctrinal and moral teachings that Mormons have reworded, reworked, rescinded, or reneged—though never officially renounced. Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in “continuing revelation.” Don’t expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with “the times.”

A further statement in the Handbook says: “The church has not favored or opposed legislative proposals or public demonstrations concerning abortion (156).” While the Mormon prophet claims to speak the mind and will of God, he can neither figure out when the unborn child becomes human or if it is God’s desire that we protect the unborn unconditionally.

Your Mormon friend will offer the excuse that his church leaves many decisions to the free agency (free will) of its people, and that abortion is one such concern. You might point out the irony in the fact that the Mormon church has no hesitation or uncertainty in making the following declarations:

1. “The church opposes gambling in any form” (including lotteries). Members are also urged to oppose legislation and government sponsorship of any form of gambling (Handbook, 150).

2. The church also opposes [correctly, of course] pornography in any form (158).

3. Church members are to reject all efforts to legally authorize or support same-sex unions (158).

There is no need for a member to pray for divine guidance or seek church approval for such activities, for there will be no divine or ecclesiastical finessing of morality to permit even an occasional bingo game. A prayerful game of poker, unrepented, will bar the member from the temple and ultimate salvation; a prayerful, by-the-book abortion, unrepented, won’t.

source: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mormon-stumpers

Beck called out the Christians on his radio program. That others

Yet so many on this thread appear to be dumbfounded that Bible believing Christians respond to it by posting the truth about what mormons actually believe and then have the audacity to call it “hate”, “evil” and “bigotry”.

The facts that mormonism fired the first shots across the bow of all of Christianity by naming us all apostates and whores of Bablyon, that Christian ministers were the tools of satan and then pursued that doctrine for well over 100 years is of no consequence I guess.

Color me surprised by the amount of sheer ignorance that abounds on this thread. Not.