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To: ROCKLOBSTER
I know these Mormon threads are meant to damage Romney, but I have to agree with Beck this morning when he said to "look at the deeds". Regardless of politics, Romney seems to be a moral, loyal, loving husband and father who donates a ton of his money to charity and helping conservatives get elected. He doesn't drink, smoke or swear. He can't be pinned to any personal or business scandal and he sure isn't boastful or arrogant.

The only hideous sin anyone can attack him with is "flip-flopping". With majority Tea Party members in the House and Senate he'd be an okay choice. As would Newt or Santorum.

171 posted on 02/23/2012 12:45:47 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Bravo!


172 posted on 02/23/2012 12:48:41 PM PST by sand lake bar (You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.)
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To: Deb

BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO, I do not like Romney due to his robot empty
suit persona, has NOT one thing to do with his faith. As long as one’s
faith is not hatred people on this site NEED TO BACK OFF!!!!!


174 posted on 02/23/2012 1:06:14 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Deb; Kit cat

By doctrine, he’s technically still a pro-abort mormon. Mormons, in case you weren’t aware, aren’t completely anti-abortion by doctrine and practice. After consultation with local “authority”, a pregnant mormon is to “pray about it” and see if God approves or disapproves. Some position that is.

“We have no revelation on abortion”

Didn’t you assume Mormons were pro-life? That’s certainly the image their church attempts to broadcast, and most Mormons, in fact, mistakenly believe their church opposes abortion and regards it as an objective evil. But not so.

Indeed, the Mormon church accepts abortion for a number of reasons. The Church Handbook of Instructions, approved in September, 1998, states that abortion may be performed in the following circumstances: pregnancy resulting from rape or incest; a competent physician says the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy; or a competent physician says that the “fetus” has severe defects that will not allow the “baby” to survive beyond birth. In any case, the persons responsible must first consult with their church leader and receive God’s approval in prayer (156).

This same Handbook, the official policies of the Mormon church to be followed by all local church leaders throughout the world, also claims: “It is a fact that a child has life before birth. However, there is no direct revelation on when the spirit enters the body” (156). Previous teachings by former Mormon prophets referred to the unborn child as “a child,” “a baby,” a “human being,” and decried abortion as “killing,” “a grievous sin,” “a damnable practice.” Spencer W. Kimball, the prophet who died in 1985, taught, “We have repeatedly affirmed the position of the church in unalterably opposing all abortions” (Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball, 189).

It appears that this “unalterable” position, constantly “affirmed,” is just another in a series of doctrinal and moral teachings that Mormons have reworded, reworked, rescinded, or reneged—though never officially renounced. Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in “continuing revelation.” Don’t expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with “the times.”

A further statement in the Handbook says: “The church has not favored or opposed legislative proposals or public demonstrations concerning abortion (156).” While the Mormon prophet claims to speak the mind and will of God, he can neither figure out when the unborn child becomes human or if it is God’s desire that we protect the unborn unconditionally.

Your Mormon friend will offer the excuse that his church leaves many decisions to the free agency (free will) of its people, and that abortion is one such concern. You might point out the irony in the fact that the Mormon church has no hesitation or uncertainty in making the following declarations:

1. “The church opposes gambling in any form” (including lotteries). Members are also urged to oppose legislation and government sponsorship of any form of gambling (Handbook, 150).

2. The church also opposes [correctly, of course] pornography in any form (158).

3. Church members are to reject all efforts to legally authorize or support same-sex unions (158).

There is no need for a member to pray for divine guidance or seek church approval for such activities, for there will be no divine or ecclesiastical finessing of morality to permit even an occasional bingo game. A prayerful game of poker, unrepented, will bar the member from the temple and ultimate salvation; a prayerful, by-the-book abortion, unrepented, won’t.

source: http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mormon-stumpers

Beck called out the Christians on his radio program. That others

Yet so many on this thread appear to be dumbfounded that Bible believing Christians respond to it by posting the truth about what mormons actually believe and then have the audacity to call it “hate”, “evil” and “bigotry”.

The facts that mormonism fired the first shots across the bow of all of Christianity by naming us all apostates and whores of Bablyon, that Christian ministers were the tools of satan and then pursued that doctrine for well over 100 years is of no consequence I guess.

Color me surprised by the amount of sheer ignorance that abounds on this thread. Not.


180 posted on 02/23/2012 2:04:55 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Deb
Regardless of politics, Romney seems to be a moral, loyal, loving husband and father who donates a ton of his money to charity and helping conservatives get elected.

Oh?

I think I can name a few that he's trying DESPERATELY that they do NOT get elected!!!

191 posted on 02/23/2012 7:36:36 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Deb
who donates a ton of his money to charity and helping conservatives get elected. He doesn't drink, smoke or swear. He can't be pinned to any personal or business scandal and he sure isn't boastful or arrogant.

Well....name his charities. And then tell me what Conservatives he's helped get elected.

And you know he doesn't do any of those three...how? Of course you don't really know...How could you? Admit it..........

He's not boastful and arrogant???? He's a politician!!! Please.............

194 posted on 02/23/2012 7:42:54 PM PST by Osage Orange (E tan e epi tas)
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To: Deb
I know these Mormon threads are meant to damage Romney

Actually, I'm sick to death of Beck O'Reilly.

203 posted on 02/23/2012 9:07:56 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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