Posted on 02/15/2012 3:30:52 PM PST by Toaster tank
I've had it, after 55 years, with the Catholic Church. No more of my money for these people. Every homily is like an Obama campaign speech. Hiding the homosexual scandal, promoting Obama Care........ on & on.
Is there a conservative alternative?
Orthodox Church maybe? Never been to one but I'm ready to switch.
Actually, it was STN that kiulled Jesus.
The OPC espouses double predestination, which is clearly unBiblical.
Do any Freepers attend services online? Just curious.
I am not LCMS, but I would agree that Roman Catholic looking for a Bible-based church ought to investigate a LCMS congregation; that or an Orthodox Church.
While neither are my favorites, their theologies are well within the orthodoxy of the historic Christian church.
I came home to Orthodoxy just a few years ago. It is Christianity’s best kept secret. ELCA had become Christianity Lite, of which I had no interest in maintaining.
I came home to Orthodoxy just a few years ago. It is Christianity’s best kept secret. ELCA had become Christianity Lite, of which I had no interest in maintaining.
I second that.
I second that.
As I tell people, the LCMS are the Christian Lutherans.
Well here is my church concept, while we are talking ideas:
www.worldviewchristianchurch.wordpress.com
Translate....please.
But where in Catholic Documents can you find a statement that the Church does not believe in the Bible, which is what you asserted in post 6, and what I challenged you on, providing a link to a papal document on the Bible that certainly does serve to indicate that the Church believes in the Bible?
You may disagree with the Church interpretation, but that does not mean that the Church does not believe in the Bible, just that the Church doesn’t believe in your interpretation of the Bible. And unless you are infallible, don’t worry (though given your confidence in your interpretation, you do seem to be under the impression that you are infallible.
We don’t pray to dead people—some people that are physically dead are alive with God—thus in Matthew 22:32 our Lord points out that Exod. 3:6 supposes Abraham,Isaac and Jacob are alive—the Saints are as alive as Abraham, Isaac,and Jacob.
We don’t worship bread-I just composted a bunch of bread-we worship the Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of the Incarnate Son of God. If I wanted to worship bread, I would go to a bakery. Do you see Catholics worshipping random loaves in the grocery store?
If Peter wasn’t the first Pope, who was?
ME, infallible? HA!!! What a horrible joke!
You miss the mark by a country mile.
Please see my reply to Kansas in post #79, which also applies to you.
You can certainly ease on down your catholic road, but I will never join you there.
There is no need for us to waste our time on each other.
I so agree with your statement regarding Jesus and share your views on the Catholic church.
12yrs of Catholic school with elementary part being in Latin. My Grandma was a Catholic all her life until my grandpa was dying in hospital and she called our local priest to come and give him last rights. He responded, well I would but I am heading out the door for a golf tournament. After the funeral, my grandmother attended Assembly of God until she died. This was a woman who made pilgrimages to Carey, Ohio ( A Catholic Shrine) every year (and took us as well)...
Raised our kids Catholic, etc. Then one day, our priest after the liturgy starts telling us how we need to join AMWAY, etc. We got up and walked out. Never been to a Catholic church since.
I have gone to the Church of Nazarene for the last 10 years and love it. Jesus was a Nazarene. I love the Bible classes, our soup kitchens, the food pantry for the poor, the outreaches, visiting people in nursing homes and hospitals, etc....
I never learned so much about the Bible and how to have a personal relationship with the Lord until I left the Catholic church. I am forgiven of my sins by confessing to Jesus, not another “man who is a supposedly go between”...I was 40yrs old when I found out that Catholics in Middle ages charged people to “pray” for the sick and the dead; and used that money to buy homes, land and entertain mistresses. I can’t get over the gold and the riches of the Vatican.
That is not what Jesus had in mind for his “church”....
My first comment on this thread was to the thread’s author. I did not engage the committed catholics to debate, because it is worthless to do so.
I find it amazing that non-Catholics argue that the doctrine that the Holy Spirit guides one individual infallibly in certain circumstances is unbiblical and undermines Christ, and then confidentally assert that they themselves are guided by the Holy Spirit without error in many wider circumstances. To each his own Pope.
I was 40yrs old when I found out that Catholics in Middle ages charged people to “pray” for the sick and the dead; and used that money to buy homes, land and entertain mistresses. I can’t get over the gold and the riches of the Vatican.
What about Elijah?
As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.”
II KINGS 2:11
and Mary?
n the early Church the relics of saints and martyrs were zealously sought after and prized, but no one ever claimed to have the bones of Mary. In fact, St John Damascene tells us:
“St. Juvenal, Bishop of Jerusalem, at the Council of Chalcedon [AD 451], made known to the Emperor Marcian and Pulcheria, who wished to possess the body of the Mother of God, that Mary died in the presence of all the Apostles, but that her tomb, when opened, upon the request of St. Thomas, was found empty; wherefrom the Apostles concluded that the body was taken up to heaven” (St John of Damascus, in Migne’s Patrologia Graeca Cursus Completus 96:1).
What? Are you seriously saying that because of no presence of some bones, that means a woman ascended into Heaven?
Have you seen all the criminal cold cases of missing bodies?
Wait. Ignore that last comment. Instead, please see comment #79, which also applies to you.
(As for Elijah, perhaps you should consult Jesus on Elijah’s whereabouts, because what Jesus said in John 3:13 may cause you some confusion.)
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