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To: WXRGina

My first comment on this thread was to the thread’s author. I did not engage the committed catholics to debate, because it is worthless to do so.


By stating that Catholics do not believe in the Bible without putting forward proof, you are inviting Catholics who are aware that they do believe in the Bible, and are also aware that the Church commands them to believe in the Bible as the inerrant word of God, to investigate the basis for your assertion. If the Holy Spirit has told you this, perhaps he could help you find something to back up your assertion.

I find it amazing that non-Catholics argue that the doctrine that the Holy Spirit guides one individual infallibly in certain circumstances is unbiblical and undermines Christ, and then confidentally assert that they themselves are guided by the Holy Spirit without error in many wider circumstances. To each his own Pope.


95 posted on 02/15/2012 6:23:32 PM PST by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G.K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus
Protestants ~ the real kind ~ don't get into hard and fast interpetations without plenty of group effort over a long period of time ~ just like Catholics.

It's no different.

109 posted on 02/15/2012 7:29:20 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Hieronymus; WXRGina

Actually it is not to be disallowed that Rome or others can be led of God, and that they may speak infallible truths (Paul quoted a pagan prophet who did so in once instance).

Instead, the real contention is that Rome’s claims to be right based upon her claim of assured infallibility, in which she has infallibly claimed to be infallible when speaking in accordance with her infallible defined scope and subject based criteria.

Rome does claim to believe the Bible, as do other groups which hold to sola ecclesia (the church is the sole supreme doctrinal authority on earth), but it is the basis for her conclusions that are in contention.

Evangelicals manifest a common consent in core truths we basically agree on with you, and contend against those who deny them, as well as against teachings which are really based upon Tradition than Scripture, which is not the supreme authority of Catholics.

Although attempts are made to enlist support for these Traditions (such as praying to departed saints, purgatory, etc.) the authority for such is really the self-proclaimed supreme magisterium.


122 posted on 02/16/2012 5:32:54 AM PST by daniel1212 (Trust in the Lord Jesus to save you as a damned+morally destitute sinner ,+ be forgiven+live)
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