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Fred Thompson Promotes ‘National Popular Vote’ Initiative In Harrisburg
CBS Philadelphia ^ | October 5th, 2011 | Tony Romeo

Posted on 01/30/2012 8:06:46 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

HARRISBURG, Pa. (CBS) - The state capitol was the scene of two events promoting distinctly different ways of changing the way Pennsylvania’s presidential electoral votes are awarded.

Actor and former Senator and former Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson is part of a bi-partisan effort to create a compact agreement among states to award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote, no matter who wins the state vote for president.

(Excerpt) Read more at philadelphia.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: constitution; electoralcollege; electoralvote; electoralvotes; fredthompson; nationalpopularvote; pa2012; pennsylvania; pennsylvaniaelection; popularvote
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This is the death of the republic.

It would be an abomination for the results of one state’s vote to decide the selection of another state’s elected representatives—and make no mistake—Presidential Electors are elected representatives. It would be no different from a state implementing a law which said a state’s governor would be determined by which party won the majority of governorships that year.

Allocating Electors based on some method which proportional to the state’s votes, such as Maine’s and Nebraska’s Congressional District system remains true to the concept of the Electoral College, but solves many of the limitations, while still creating a clear and defendable winner. Other proportional systems such as the 2004 Colorado proposal have challenges.


21 posted on 01/30/2012 8:26:05 AM PST by magellan
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Speaking of enemies inside the wire, I watched Red Dawn last night.

It was an interesting story they told about how the invasion was facilitated by illegals.


22 posted on 01/30/2012 8:27:38 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
That's democracy!
When did schools quit teaching that democracy is the most dispicable for of government ever devised?
23 posted on 01/30/2012 8:28:32 AM PST by dalereed
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I live in Washington State where it is accepted practice for democrats to magically find boxes full of ballots for weeks after an election that they have not won. Eliminating the electoral college would guarantee their control on a national scale. Thompson should call his idea the ACORN amendment.


24 posted on 01/30/2012 8:29:02 AM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

If the popular vote initiative was ever instituted, states like VT, NH, NM, NV, AZ, MT, ND, SD, etc., would NEVER see a presidential candidate.

We would see NYC, LA, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc., electing the president.

Fly-over country would be completely ignored.

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Thank goodness the Thompson bandwagon crashed in 2008.

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Where do most liberals live?

NYC, LA, Boston, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc.

Co-inky-dink?


25 posted on 01/30/2012 8:30:07 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SkyDancer
"He doesn’t realize that eliminating the Electoral College would allow the most populated states big cities with sophisticated vote fraud mechanisms control who will be president."

Fixed.

The original point of the electoral college system was the idea that it was better to have a president who was moderately liked all over the country, to a president whose support was intense but limited to just a few locations.

26 posted on 01/30/2012 8:30:46 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.)
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To: SkyDancer
And I thought he was intelligent. My mistake. He doesn’t realize that eliminating the Electoral College would allow the most populated states control who will be president.

You mean:

And I thought he was intelligent. My mistake. He doesn’t realize that eliminating the Electoral College would allow the states with most inner city vote fraud to control who will be president.

27 posted on 01/30/2012 8:30:57 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: LibLieSlayer

In rural Indiana, we have a saying for what Fred can do to himself (and the horse he rode in on).


28 posted on 01/30/2012 8:33:35 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

“so screwed if we lose the Electoral College”..You are absolutely 100% correct! This would mean the “Left Coast” and the Urban centers of the East would control the presidential elections. Somebody must be paying Thompson for his support on this.


29 posted on 01/30/2012 8:33:58 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Fred Thompson now wants to disenfranchise the small states? WTF?

ONLY someone with no appreciation for our history would want mob rule....which is what a popular vote only national election would be!

I really am concerned, folks, that we are forgetting about the 10th amendment and states rights in our urge to blast “tyranny”.


30 posted on 01/30/2012 8:34:21 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: cripplecreek
Oldie but a goodie...I thought someone was going to do a remake?

The enemy has been well entrenched since Teddy Roosevelt. What you are seeing today is their reaction to being rejected.....just look at the temper tantrum known as bloody Thursday. If there was any doubt before it's long gone now.

31 posted on 01/30/2012 8:35:10 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Soros is also pushing this --past article written by his son

(wsj Dec 2008)

It's Time to Junk the Electoral College We don't need an amendment to do it. -Jonathan Soros

32 posted on 01/30/2012 8:37:38 AM PST by opentalk
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To: rightwingextremist1776

The fate of the Free World would be determined by Yankees and Lakers fans.


33 posted on 01/30/2012 8:39:25 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Two problems (among others) Fred:

1. The electoral college confines the damage of fraud to a local area. For instance, if unions are packing the ballot boxes in Chicago, the most damage they can do is to the Illinois electoral vote. But under this plan, if they can control Chicago ballot boxes, they can control the nation.

2. This is just a precursor to a federal voting rights standard. Right now, your state can check voter IDs or ban violent felons from voting, etc. If this electoral college override scheme is implemented, you can bet the ACLU will quickly file suit to require “uniform national” voting laws.

One more blow to the federal republic.


34 posted on 01/30/2012 8:40:40 AM PST by PressurePoint
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
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35 posted on 01/30/2012 8:40:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Used to like and respect Fred, but not any more. He's an idiot to promote this. It would be the demise of our nation's system if we moved even further down the fool's path of "democratization."

We need to be moving in the other direction by overturning the 17th Amendment.
36 posted on 01/30/2012 8:43:48 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

This is the progressive response to the 2000 election.

Every time they don’t like the results, they try to change the rules. They’re constantly tinkering with the system to get the results they want.

Trust me, the first time this “National Popular Vote” scheme fails to elect a Democrat, you can bet the progs will be in court complaining that it “isn’t fair” and needs to be “modified” by a court ruling.


37 posted on 01/30/2012 8:51:00 AM PST by PressurePoint
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To: RockinRight

I like Fred too, but this makes me glad that he didn’t make it out of the Republican Primaries.


38 posted on 01/30/2012 8:53:35 AM PST by wbill
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Okay, kids. One more time. We need a second party!


39 posted on 01/30/2012 8:53:54 AM PST by Terry Mross (We need a second party.)
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To: cripplecreek

What amazes me with that map is the number of states with small populations that are FOR it.

Do that not realize that they are basically giving away any influence they have in national elections?


40 posted on 01/30/2012 8:55:04 AM PST by TomGuy
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