Posted on 01/09/2012 6:03:16 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
According to the Quinnipiac Poll released Monday, Romney leads the field among Florida Republicans with 36 percent of the vote, followed by Newt Gingrich with 24 percent, then Rick Santorum at 16 percent. Behind them, Ron Paul has the support of 10 percent of Florida Republicans, Rick Perry has five and Jon Huntsman trails with two percent. The poll also found that 54 percent of Florida Republicans say they could change their minds in the coming weeks.
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Florida: Mitt-36, Newt-24, Santorum-16
South Carolina: Mitt-30, Newt-23, Santorum-19
Santorum’s bounce out of Iowa has already peaked and started to fade in N.H..
It’s pretty clear what’s going on here.
Florida: Mitt-36, Newt-24, Santorum-16
South Carolina: Mitt-30, Newt-23, Santorum-19
Santorum’s bounce out of Iowa has already peaked and started to fade in N.H..
It’s pretty clear what’s going on here.
The “Social Conservatives” are what’s supporting Santorum. I don’t care for him (but had an open mind for a long long time), and agree with his nephew. He doesn’t think that freedom works, and wants to force everyone to do what he thinks is best (which may or may not be). We don’t need a dictator, even if he thinks he’s Constantine.
On every other issue, he’s about as liberal as they come, but then again, so is virtually everyone else left in this Republican primary.
By that time, it will be too late to effectively defeat Romney if he carries SC.
Well then I guess they need to make the decision today. So who has had the most success in the race thus far? The other one needs to drop out today. Sounds fair to me.
Well we had almost 4 years after watching McCain lose and insisting it was because McCain wan't conservative enough. What happened? Maybe the conservative party within a party should be called the Herding Cats party. Now that's a party that could really change...wait, there's a bird...
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I think I read your post correct. I was asking if you were willing to vote for someone you didn’t fully support in order to vote against someone you support less. That’s holding your nose and voting... something that’s happened since Adams and Jefferson ran against each other and something that some people insist they will never do.
The funny part of this poll: Huntsman at 2%. Last year, the Hussein employee opened his national campaign headquarters in Orlando, and a fawning Florida media praised his presence.
Then they were silent when he left Florida with his tail between his legs.
Hunmtsman... the guy that really puts fear in Obama's heart. Yeah, sure.
What is the evidence Santorum’s support would largely go to Gingrich?
I suspect this is true but all along the process someone has claimed if you vote for this guy you are electing Obama or Rom
Otherwise, the overall effect is all the candidates are fighting harder. While Romney hasn’t taken a knock out punch I have notice he is taken a couple that made him wobble a bit.
I personally would like to see Santorum or Gingrich to land a TKO that totally takes him out of the equation.
Leaving a choice between Santorum or Gingrich.
I think in that situation Gingrich would win the nom.
I agree and that is not enough to help Santorum win the nomination and it is not enough to help him win the general election, even against Obama. Also, IMO the lame stream media will destroy Santorum over his social positions. Social concerns are not as important to voters as they are here on FR.
I don't really think you can look at one state and divine the outcome in the next.
Well, I know one thing that was going on in Iowa. I watched a Fox New affiliate clip (I saw it on another program the morning before the caucus, but am not sure on which it was)that said that the establishment was going to have the Caucus leaders try and sway the caucus goers away from Ron Paul and toward Romney and Santorum.
Now I don’t know if that is truly the case (—that it happened—I know for sure it was said, as I watched the interview), but it can explain part of the bump for both Santorum and the lesser turnout for Ron Paul. Then again, there was talk of having Demcrat crossover to vote for Ron Paul, so it may have been a wash. Either way, Santorum will not have much support outside of Iowa. The fact is that people don’t like what he’s saying. I am only marginally politically active on FR, but very politically active in real life (or in person, however you say), and have daily conversations with business and personal contacts with people about the election. Not a single person has liked Santorum that I have spoken to, Conservative, Liberal, or Independent.
The Republican party is fading as it should be. We were warned against a two party system, and now all we have is the one party with two heads. The Tea party MUST stand up for Constitutional, Limited Government, not the lesser of two evils. That will always get you evil, and it always gets worse. When we have citizen detention bills passed with near unanimous support, it should be a clue that the politicians don’t have our best interest in mind, no matter the letter behind their name. There’s not a single “Constitutional Conservative” Republican left in the race. Herman Cain was close, Sarah Palin didn’t run, and Ron Paul is a Libertarian (just below an anarchist).
If I remember correctly. Jim Robinson said on a thread last week, that if Romney gets the Republican nomination, that he’ll work to form a third party, because FR, after all,is going to remain Anti-Romney. That may be the very best thing that has every happened to politics in America. People need to finally stand up and say “NO!” to big government politicians. It started 2 years ago with the Tea Party. The enemy (evil/liberalism) NEVER relents. If you slide with it, you’ll always slide. The Founding Fathers are rolling over the Patriot Act, written by none other than Joe Biden, and there was outrage but the frog’s pot was allowed to steep slowly. Now we have FEMA campes (read an article last year about the funding for their expansion, but not going to go into it at the moment/on this thread), and civilian detainment.
The answer isn’t more government to force you to do something. The answer is little government, and people actually facing the natural consequences to their actions. Starting with politicians.
Quinnipiac is one of the most unreliable polls with a very liberal bent.
I last voted for McCain, because I liked Palin. After that, I vowed never to hold my nose and vote for someone I don’t believe in, and I won’t. I will always shoot for the bar, and if it falls short, it falls short. But I’m not going to go the political route of “not as bad as” anymore.
Many older voters still remember Newt from the 90’s and just don't care for his style of cozying up with the Dems.
Also, his adultery and 3 marriages are a big turn off for many folks. Especially coupled with the fact that he was getting Lewinskied at the same time as Bill Clinton and he was second in line to the Presidency.
If Santorum doesn't do well I believe that many Floridian conservatives will just go for the Anyone But Obama candidate.
Based on what I am hearing here in SW Florida, Newt will not be the winner on January 30th.
SPARTANBURG, Sc. - Despite a disappointing 5th place finish in the Iowa Caucuses, GOP hopeful Gov. Rick Perry, R-Texas, pushed his campaign forward to South Carolina Sunday, explaining to voters here exactly why he’s staying in the race.
“I have never quit a day in my life, I have never quit in the face of adversity and I’m not just about to quit on the future of America,” Perry declared at his first campaign stop since his Iowa defeat.
“I am gonna stay in this race and stay in this fight because our children and this country are worth the fight.”
Staying viable takes more than sheer will. Several polls now show Perry is a non factor in South Carolina, and he needs money to keep his campaign alive.
His wife Anita, who reportedly urged her husband to stay in the race after Iowa, is now attacking his GOP rivals and asking supporters for cash.
“Despite what you read from the pundits and pollsters, the scenario for resurgence is quite plausible,” she writes in a new plea for funds.
“Governor Romney continues to be mired in the low twenties in many polls, and in fact did not improve his percentage in Iowa over four years ago by a single point. At the same time, Senator Santorum is just now receiving media scrutiny. While Rick and I admire Rick Santorum greatly, he can’t replicate his performance in Iowa where he camped out for the last year.”
For his part, Governor Perry will now be camping out in South Carolina, and campaigning here every day until the Palmetto State’s primary January 21st.
Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2012/01/08/perry-ive-never-quit-day-my-life#ixzz1iyKav5Ka
I agree. Santorum has no chance against Romney, but women are apparently voting for him because they think he’s a “nice young man.” He’s sort of priggish and squeaky clean, and I guess that appeals to some people, regardless of his ideas or lack of them. Although I think his call to take benefits away from Social Security recipients and make it and Medicare means-based (which would turn them into redistributionist welfare plans rather than, respectively, neutral pension and insurance plans) is probably not going to fly in Florida.
However, Santorum’s parents live here in Florida, and all of a sudden the press been pitching the “Santorum is nearly a native son” thing down here. He won in Iowa by moving there and having lived there for nearly a year, and by being next in line when Romney’s ads had destroyed Gingrich.
I wish people would look at ideas, but that seems to be the last thing on anybody’s list.
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