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Prison not enough for peaceable armed citizen, Bloomberg smears her with lie(NY)
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 3 January, 2012 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 01/04/2012 7:04:34 AM PST by marktwain

On December 22, registered nurse and fourth-year medical student Meredith Graves, from Tennessee, was visiting the 9/11 Memorial in New York City. Ms. Graves, rather than abdicating responsibility for her security to others, was carrying a defensive handgun, as she is licensed to do in Tennessee. That, unfortunately, avails her nothing in New York. When she saw the "No Guns" sign before entering, she did her best to comply with the law, asking a security guard where she could check her gun. The guard directed her to a police officer, who promptly arrested her for violation of New York's laws against self-defense. She now faces, if convicted, a minimum of 3 1/2 years in prison--and New York apparently intends to aggressively pursue the case.

So far, nothing especially unsual about the story--we recently talked about another visitor from out of state who is now facing prison charges stemming from his failure to realize how passionately the New York ruling class loves mandated defenselessness. Well, actually, there is something unusual about it: this case has led even some New York politicians to think that the law needs to be changed. Where this story exceeds the typical level of outrageousness of New York's forcible citizen disarmament culture is the libelous lie Mayor Bloomberg (presumably annoyed that his beloved gun laws were being questioned) smeared Ms. Graves with. From Capital New York:

When asked whether the woman deserved any leniency, Mayor Michael Bloomberg indicated to reporters at a press conference in Brooklyn today that she had other problems.

"Let's assume she didn't get arrested for carrying a gun," he said. "She probably would have gotten arrested for the cocaine that was in her pocket."

Cocaine in her pocket? Umm . . . no.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; bloomberg; ccw; corruption; donttreadonme; donttreaonme; govtabuse; graves; guncontrol; liberalfascism; lping; maig; meredithgraves; ny; nyc; pipsqueak; policestate; rapeofliberty; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny; unconstitutional
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To: Navy Patriot

Being thrown off a jury for what is said in the jury room is reportable to the judicial review board in your state. Most of the time nothing will happen, some times the judge will be removed from the bench.


81 posted on 01/04/2012 10:59:11 AM PST by W. W. SMITH (Obama is an instrument of enslavement)
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To: W. W. SMITH
Being thrown off a jury for what is said in the jury room is reportable to the judicial review board in your state.

True.

Most of the time nothing will happen, some times the judge will be removed from the bench.

The state (Excepting the 9 Bay Area Counties and the CSC) in general has a reasonable (not stellar) record of judicial oversight, but I can count on one hand, after cutting off three of my fingers, the number of leftist jury bullying judges removed here by judicial review, while the defendant rots in jail.

82 posted on 01/04/2012 11:21:09 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: Hacklehead

Honestly, what I’d like to see happen:

*rrrrrring*

Bloomie: Hello?

Bill Haslam: Hello, Mr. Mayor? This is Tennesee Governor Bill Haslam.

Bloomie: Hi, Governor, what can I do for you?

Haslam: Mike, we have a little situation here we need to discuss. Seems you’re giving one of my good constituents a hard time.

Bloomie: We have no tolerance for guns in this city.

Haslam: What you Yankees do with your urban hellholes is none of my business, but Meredith Graves is an upstanding citizen who offered to check her gun to comply with the regulations of the 9/11 Memorial. Meanwhile crack dealers roam your streets.

Bloomie: Bill, I...

Haslam: Cut the shit, Mike. Let her go, send her back home to Tennesee, and I won’t have to send some of my good ol’ boys up to take care of you.


83 posted on 01/04/2012 12:07:16 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: domeika
BTTT!


Fully Informed Jury Association



84 posted on 01/04/2012 12:20:37 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: domeika

BTW, I stole your post for my FR homepage :-)


85 posted on 01/04/2012 12:27:39 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: marktwain

bookmark


86 posted on 01/04/2012 12:37:31 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: RockinRight

I’d love to see Haslam make that call...


87 posted on 01/04/2012 12:43:27 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: marktwain

Bloomberg is a disgusting elitist dirtball who did not care about the people who died during the December, 2011 snow storm. He was vacationing in Bermuda at the time. Proud that I never voted for this nanny.


88 posted on 01/04/2012 12:46:16 PM PST by juliej
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To: who knows what evil?
I don't know what Haslam's voice sounds like, but in my head I imagine him sounding like Judge Haller (Fred Gwynne) from My Cousin Vinny.
89 posted on 01/04/2012 1:17:46 PM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: marktwain
An account of another Southern gun owner while visiting NY:


"... The two judges, almost inseparable, were headed for a New York bar convention when the metal detector's buzz at RDU prompted a search of Sharp's purse, which contained a small revolver...

You certainly don't expect me to visit New York without carrying some form of protection, do you? The firearm was transferred from her purse to her luggage..."

- N.C. Supreme Court Chief Justice Susie Sharp, when told that a gun she was carrying in her purse was verboten in a New York bar convention.

(Article has been archived: Susie, say it ain't so, Published: News & Observer, The (Raleigh, NC), September 21, 2008, Arts & Living D16)


(Sorry, that's all I have from the original article - NewsObserver.com wants $2.95 to purchase the article, if you're interested)



90 posted on 01/04/2012 1:29:18 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Mr. K
Why was she carrying powdered aspirin?

As Massad Ayood points out in one of the articles linked above, powdered aspirin is very common in the South.

You pour it into water, kinda like Alka Seltzer. If you let it completely dissolve, you can drink it and it won't upset your stomach like an aspirin tablet does to some people.

91 posted on 01/04/2012 1:46:40 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Mr. K

The powdered aspirin was probably a Goody’s or BC powder. They’re pretty useful when you have a headache. I carry them with me often here in NYC, and I DO get some strange looks when I whip one out, but a headache is a headache, and that’s the best thing short of a prescription for it. And perfectly legal.


92 posted on 01/04/2012 1:55:06 PM PST by SquarePants
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To: justlurking

Re Goodies Head ache powder Stan Back and others.....

The proper way to take them is to empty the powder behind your bottom lip and then wash down with Coca Cola.

The carbonation plus the caffine give instant action and are very effective


93 posted on 01/04/2012 2:00:25 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: Walkingfeather

If I were Meredith Graves, I would sue this Nazi pri*k Bloomberg for libel.

On TV, I saw Nannie Bloomberg standing by the crystal ball on New Years Eve just before the ball drop at midnight. He was wearing a white sweater with an American flag across the front. This twerp of a mayor has no business wearing an American flag on his clothing.


94 posted on 01/04/2012 2:05:25 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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To: marktwain
Massad Ayoob hopes Ms. Graves sues Bloomberg for libel, and thereby fund her defense against the felony charges she faces. Not a bad idea.

That sounds like a wonderful idea. The main lesson here though is to never set foot in the un-American Big Crap Hole.

95 posted on 01/04/2012 2:14:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: marktwain

She needs to sue Bloomberg for slander ASAP.

Ask for a billion dollars.


96 posted on 01/04/2012 2:17:50 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Never discuss the subject with anyone when on a jury or under an active jury summons.

Never discuss the subject with any government employee, ever.

Your advice is accurate and true, I have read it in Jury Nullification pamphlets, but it sounds like the kind of advice one Soviet citizen whispered to another. It's legal and Constitutional but don't let the government hear you say it.

97 posted on 01/04/2012 2:50:11 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: sam_paine

“Someone trying to brew up a federal CHL case for the supreme court?”

The full faith & credit clause makes for an interesting strategy considering there are only a couple areas of the country holding out at this point. If I can drive in New York with a Florida license, then why can’t I carry in New York with a Florida license?

Of course if the Supremes decided that clause applied, it would neuter the “reasonable restrictions” limitation of Heller. If I live in Chicago with crazy restrictions, I’d just go over to Montana or somewhere with no restrictions, get my license, and tell Illinois to deal with it.


98 posted on 01/04/2012 3:09:09 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: muawiyah

Never mind Bloomberg go after the “innocent” New Yorkers that elected him and created theses oppressive gun laws that ignore Tennessee Full Faith & credit rights. After all they are going after the innocent of citizens of Tennessee.

The Tennessee AG should issue a warning to New York, that unless they return their citizen to the safety & freedom of Tennessee, New Yorkers in Tennessee might find themselves in a similar situation for lack of Full faith & credit being given to New York documents. (IE Drivers licenses)

Wink Wink nod nod...


99 posted on 01/04/2012 3:19:45 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Boogieman

““Someone trying to brew up a federal CHL case for the supreme court?”

The full faith & credit clause makes for an interesting strategy considering there are only a couple areas of the country holding out at this point. If I can drive in New York with a Florida license, then why can’t I carry in New York with a Florida license?

Of course if the Supreme decided that clause applied, it would neuter the “reasonable restrictions” limitation of Heller. If I live in Chicago with crazy restrictions, I’d just go over to Montana or somewhere with no restrictions, get my license, and tell Illinois to deal with it.”

I tend to agree, which is one of the reasons I dread such an edict were it to take effect.

The ability to vote with your feet should be limited to state of residency.

In other words you should not be able to get a license of any kind from any state that you are not a resident of, and you can only be a resident of one state at a time.

Indeed the moment you change residency your existing licenses from the other state should become null & void. (subject to conversion period).

This is a concept pro-life Conservatives must wholeheartedly support. By choosing to live in Alabama you should be choosing to live by Alabama law. So if Alabama Says No abortion an Alabama resident should not be given an abortion in any other State. The Alabama resident must first establish residency in anther State, and that process should take at least 6 months.

When you move to a state you are committing for a period of time to that State’s laws.


100 posted on 01/04/2012 3:44:24 PM PST by Monorprise
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