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Prison not enough for peaceable armed citizen, Bloomberg smears her with lie(NY)
St. Louis Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 3 January, 2012 | Kurt Hofmann

Posted on 01/04/2012 7:04:34 AM PST by marktwain

On December 22, registered nurse and fourth-year medical student Meredith Graves, from Tennessee, was visiting the 9/11 Memorial in New York City. Ms. Graves, rather than abdicating responsibility for her security to others, was carrying a defensive handgun, as she is licensed to do in Tennessee. That, unfortunately, avails her nothing in New York. When she saw the "No Guns" sign before entering, she did her best to comply with the law, asking a security guard where she could check her gun. The guard directed her to a police officer, who promptly arrested her for violation of New York's laws against self-defense. She now faces, if convicted, a minimum of 3 1/2 years in prison--and New York apparently intends to aggressively pursue the case.

So far, nothing especially unsual about the story--we recently talked about another visitor from out of state who is now facing prison charges stemming from his failure to realize how passionately the New York ruling class loves mandated defenselessness. Well, actually, there is something unusual about it: this case has led even some New York politicians to think that the law needs to be changed. Where this story exceeds the typical level of outrageousness of New York's forcible citizen disarmament culture is the libelous lie Mayor Bloomberg (presumably annoyed that his beloved gun laws were being questioned) smeared Ms. Graves with. From Capital New York:

When asked whether the woman deserved any leniency, Mayor Michael Bloomberg indicated to reporters at a press conference in Brooklyn today that she had other problems.

"Let's assume she didn't get arrested for carrying a gun," he said. "She probably would have gotten arrested for the cocaine that was in her pocket."

Cocaine in her pocket? Umm . . . no.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloodoftyrants; bloomberg; ccw; corruption; donttreadonme; donttreaonme; govtabuse; graves; guncontrol; liberalfascism; lping; maig; meredithgraves; ny; nyc; pipsqueak; policestate; rapeofliberty; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny; unconstitutional
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To: marktwain
If it had been salt, our midget fascist mayor would have had her summarily executed.
I'm kidding about the execution, not the rest.
101 posted on 01/04/2012 4:00:39 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Monorprise

That’s a good one ~ just start taking New Yorkers hostage ~ Brushy Mountain perhaps?


102 posted on 01/04/2012 4:12:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jewbacca
The punishment should ALWAYS be proportionate to the wealth of the slanderer ~ else there's no element of punishment.

A billion bucks is probably short of what's needed but I think a good lawyer could find out just how much it will take in a few questions during discovery.

103 posted on 01/04/2012 4:16:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mr. K

http://www.koaa.com/news/denver-company-saving-lives-with-new-powdered-aspirin/ ~ not at all strange. Maybe it’s something New Yorkers are denied since it may be so readily mistaken for salt and you know how he is about that!


104 posted on 01/04/2012 4:19:44 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cycjec
So what you're saying is the young man pooping on the NYC cop car may have been expressing a quite relevant and positive emotion.

Next time I see one of their vehicles down here in Virginia (doing a gun deal) I'll try it. See if they get the message.

105 posted on 01/04/2012 4:24:59 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: tacticalogic
Given the number of tom fool arrests they make it must cost the city a fortune to keep the cops in cocaine.

No wonder the Mexicans are killing each other for a piece of that action.

106 posted on 01/04/2012 4:29:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mr. K
Why was she carrying powdered aspirin?

So maybe she should have been carrying Head-On instead? Is that a more acceptable product in the public square?

Maybe she has trouble swallowing pills and prefers to dissolve it in a glass of water.

-PJ

107 posted on 01/04/2012 4:31:26 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: muawiyah

“The punishment should ALWAYS be proportionate to the wealth of the slanderer ~ else there’s no element of punishment.”

Moreover:

1. False accusation of a crime is “slander per se.” Thus, damages are presumed.

2. The mayor’s false accusation has made it impossible for her to get a fair trial in NYC, so she should move to transfer her case.


108 posted on 01/04/2012 4:33:35 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Jewbacca
St. Lawrence county NY might be good ~ or, the Adirondaks where New York owns so much land taken under eminent domain for their water supply ~ which they waste.

It could be used for perfectly good rivers and streams and there it is washing body waste out to sea. Certainly New Yorkers can take care of their own personal hygiene without driving people off their land.

109 posted on 01/04/2012 4:39:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: bert

I shoot them onto the back of my tongue and chug a big gulp of water. If done right the taste buds never even register it.


110 posted on 01/04/2012 4:43:40 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: muawiyah
Given the number of tom fool arrests they make it must cost the city a fortune to keep the cops in cocaine.

They may be on something, but I'd think if it was coke you wouldn't see nearly as many fat ones.

111 posted on 01/04/2012 4:57:02 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
I was thinking more of their need to drop a dime on a perp they want to put away easy, and then have some left to take away to work with a couple of homies to supplement their income.

Then, too, maybe they use the stuff. That was certainly suspected in the "Bridegroom Shooting".

112 posted on 01/04/2012 5:06:25 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cuban leaf

>He’s got to either arrest her or escort her out of town. It is one reason we need that national law where they accept your CC from any state just as they let you drive with a drivers license from any state.

Nope. At that point if he DOES arrest her then *he* becomes the felon:
US CODE, TITLE 18, PART I, CHAPTER 13, § 242. — Deprivation of rights under color of law

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.


113 posted on 01/04/2012 5:40:26 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Monorprise

>In other words you should not be able to get a license of any kind from any state that you are not a resident of, and you can only be a resident of one state at a time.

I disagree, for one simple reason residency and Citizenship are two different things. (And you are conflating residency and citizenship.)
You may indeed reside in two or more states (summer homes?), but may only be a Citizen of one.


114 posted on 01/04/2012 5:55:15 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Mr. K

Used alot in the South. One brand is “BC Powder”. Their jingle
“You take a BC Powder and come back strong”


115 posted on 01/04/2012 6:34:26 PM PST by therut
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To: Mr. K

Used alot in the South. One brand is “BC Powder”. Their jingle
“You take a BC Powder and come back strong”


116 posted on 01/04/2012 6:34:47 PM PST by therut
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To: OneWingedShark
There's a nationwide system of reciprocity that allows you to drive with your own state's driver's license in a car registered in your home state ~ without difficulty.

You try that with a truck the laws change.

There's really very little federal law involved in any of that ~ just reciprocity agreements (usually effectuated by passing a law signing your state onto a standard agreement).

What's proposed with CCW is something similar ~ then there'd be no problem with the Fascist Prince of New York and his running dog lackeys.

117 posted on 01/04/2012 6:35:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Ah. I didn’t figure they’d need that much for planting. They can get that back from evidence and re-use it.


118 posted on 01/04/2012 6:57:44 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: marktwain

Mayor Bloomberg’s statement was not only libelous, but likely as well to have been a major violation of her civil rights in that his statement prejudiced her chances for a fair trial.

May she win enough money from the cur to endow a few chairs at the medical school she attends, maybe even a new surgical wing.


119 posted on 01/04/2012 7:09:01 PM PST by bvw
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To: OneWingedShark

“>In other words you should not be able to get a license of any kind from any state that you are not a resident of, and you can only be a resident of one state at a time.

I disagree, for one simple reason residency and Citizenship are two different things. (And you are conflating residency and citizenship.)
You may indeed reside in two or more states (summer homes?), but may only be a Citizen of one.”

I stand corrected.

But to prevent confusion you should only be able to get licenses from the state which you are a citizen of.


120 posted on 01/04/2012 7:36:16 PM PST by Monorprise
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